A daily dose of mis-information...

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A daily dose of mis-information...
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Tue, 04-15-2003 - 8:53am
Goddess, this was sent to me upon request. Amusing take on nail care...

Below is part of what was sent.


Perfect Nails Plan 2003

If you follow the Lunatips Perfect Nails Plan as set out below, you will gain Longer Stronger Healthy Vibrant Nails All Year Round.

· You will need: 1 Four Way Buffer 1 Nail File 1 Hand & Nail Cream Cuticle remover Nail Polish.

· File nails: remove up to 1mm of nail depending on length of nail, for perfect shape, follow the outline of the finger pads palm facing up.

· Push cuticles back from nail daily

· Use Cuticle Removing cream 2 – 3 times a year, or as required.

· Buff nails with 4 way buffer: remove ridges then smooth and polish nails for polished effect.

· Tidy nails so nails will be in perfect shape ready for the time of re growth


· During the time when you are applying your hand & nail cream and keeping your nails covered with polish you must NEVER file your nails, if you have any emergency repairs use the ridge remover on the 4 way buffer to smooth the broken part of the nail to stop it from catching and breaking.





****If you apply any creams to your nails outside of the dates given you will damage your nails.****

(Goddess, I'm a little confused by this statement. Is it possible to damage nails using SolarOil when "I shoudn't".? What I find funny is that there is no explanation for this. Or, for much of the so-called facts presented here.)





· When it is the time to file your nails it is also the time to cut your toenails and attend to your feet and remove hard skin from the foot area.


If you follow the Lunatips Perfect Nails Plan not only will you have the nails you have always wanted but you will also start to recognize your own body’s patterns, which will be repeated for the rest of your life, the longer you follow the easier it gets, and the less you have to do, you do not need any special products to help your nails to grow they will do that anyway, if you honor the natural process your nails go through you will be greatly rewarded.

ENJOY

Lunatips

Email: vknox@lunatips.com





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Tue, 04-15-2003 - 9:16am
Hi there! I agree, this is an interesting take on nailcare. All I have to say about the Lunatips routine is, to each their own.

To answer your question:

Is it possible to damage nails using SolarOil when "I shoudn't".? What I find funny is that there is no explanation for this. Or, for much of the so-called facts presented here.

No, there is no way to damage your nails using SolarOil when you shouldn't.

I have asked for information backing this theory of nailcare several times and have gotten no proven documentation whatsoever.

I hope I have answered your question!

~goddess~

~goddess~
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Tue, 04-15-2003 - 9:37am
I am going to send them a quick email asking for clarification.

Have a great day Ladies!

Is it as beautiful outside there as it is in Cleveland?

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Tue, 04-15-2003 - 5:25pm
All I can say is out of the three of you how long is it since your nails last broke??? I wonder if any of you have gone a straight 18 months without your nails breaking? I think not, who was it whose nail broke only the other day, maybe you should try easing off your solar oil for a while, infact i would like to hear from anyone who has had consistent long nails for over a year using this solar oil/nail tek without any breakages, again it shows us what the nail techs know about nails doesnt it.

No doubt you will all get really touchy and defensive, though I dont know why, after all this board is meant for ordinary people not a nail techs club, or is this site owned by nail tek and solar oil? because it does get mention an awful lot, do you get commission??

*Lunachick*

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Tue, 04-15-2003 - 9:12pm
Lunachick, I think you might need to calm down a bit. You have your beliefs about lunatips, which you have made very clear and mentioned in every single one of your posts. I have not said anything about you not mentioning lunatips in your posts. Therefore, anyone on this board has the right to mention Nail Tek and SolarOil or any other product they find beneficial to their nailcare routine. Nail Tek and SolarOil are 2 products that have been extremely helpful and wonderful products for many ladies who visit the board. We are just sharing the products some of us have found useful as you are doing with lunatips.

By the way, it was myself that broke a nail. I let my nails get too long, my choice. That doesn't mean I'm a horrible nail professional or I should step down from being community leader of this board. It's not a big deal to me and I don't worry about it as my nails will grow regardless.

And I just want to point out, that if anyone's post looks "touchy or defensive" it's yours. I would also like to add that I would appreciate it if you would please respect others views on "lunatips" or any other product that is posted about on this board. I have the right to post my thoughts on "lunatips" as well as you do on Nail Tek and SolarOil. But, there is a right way and a wrong way to do so.

~goddess~

~goddess~
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Wed, 04-16-2003 - 8:13am
Dear Goddess

Maybe I am a bit touchy but thats because my messages keep getting deleted, I have just visited the nail tek site which claims that if use their products you will get long strong nails, which you know just the fact that your nail broke leads me to question this product, my nails are longer than what yours were and I dont have to spend $9.95 plus all the extras to get them, also how long do you have to use these products for because if it is an on going treatment well that will cost a fortune to follow and your nails could break anyway.

Plus I'm not allowed to say anything about your "tried and tested" products but other people can post negative things about ltips (perephone777) and not have their messages deleted. You are not allowing the women who visit this board to make informed choices about their nail care, it seems that most of the advice given is based around SELLING products.

Here I am a woman speaking from my own experiences trying to help other woman who have battled for years like myself spending loads of money on nail care products, and then there is the nail techs who with every bit of advice is telling people to go and spend yet more money on trying to get long strong nails.

Is this a nail advice board or is it a purposely designed board for selling nail products, you know it is called "get beautiful nails" after all, and if your nails break using these products the odds are that the women you are advising to go out and buy the products nails will break too, and they find themselves back where they started.

*Lunachick*

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Wed, 04-16-2003 - 9:25am
lunachick, Have you ever thought that your nail goals may be different than mine or someone elses? And I don't care that your nails are longer than mine. I'm fine with my nail routine, as you are with yours.

Of course you can what you want about any product you want, it's the way you say it that's the problem. You are extremely disrespectful at times and some of your statements are very uncalled for. And your posts that I or someone else on this board finds offensive will be reported and removed. It is not up to myself or another poster to remove your posts, it comes from the higher ups. Who happen to be extremely fair when it comes to leaving posts on the board and removing inappropriate posts.

I'm sorry that I don't believe in your "lunatips" nail routine. Nothing you do or say is going to change my mind on that. If a member posts a question to ME regarding something lunatips says on their website, I have every right to give my opinion, which I did and will continue to do.

This is my final post to you regarding this matter. If you do not like the way this board is conducted or what is said on this board, I suggest that you find another nail board to post on.

My apologies for this post if it comes of rude or disrespectful. But, I have had it with this nonsense.

~goddess~

~goddess~
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Wed, 04-16-2003 - 9:32am
WOW! Thanks! Good info!!!!
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Wed, 04-16-2003 - 9:35am
HOLY COW! AREN'T YOU THE DEFENSIVE ONE!

First off LUNACHICK, I didn't post negative things about Lunatips. I'm definatley not bashing your nail care choices, I merely asked a reasonable question about a comment or so-called fact given to me from some material I requested from Ltips.

There are NO documents or scientific proof to back up what they are claiming on their web page. What kind of research did they (Ltips) do before trying to sell this claim? Paula Begoun (Author, skin care consultant, dermatologist)has opened my eyes to really question the claims that beauty companies give about their products. (Anyone will tell you what you want to hear to get you to BUY their product.)

If I tell you that Cleveland is falling off into lake Erie and just expect you to believe it with out seeing some proof, wouldn't you call that spreading mis-information?

Don't believe everything you read because it is printed or on a web page.

Did you ever question the scientific side of these claims?

Did you ever wonder exactly what kind of damage will happen to your nails if you accidently put hand cream on your hands at the "wrong time"? I mean seriously, did you ever freak out because you got some cooking oil on your hands while making dinner during the the waxing moon? Do you wear rubber gloves when eating fried foods? I mean, the oils can "damage" your nails!

Since I have been reading the posts on this board and asking the questions that I need answered, my nails have NEVER looked this healthy. They are pink, shiny, strong, and all because I made some choices and came across the right information.

Maybe you should go get a manicure at a spa before you decide on your nail care choice.

I will post my message from Lunatips after they reply to my email. Let's see how they back up their claims. That's all I'm looking for...


Holding-my-tongue ;),

Persephone777
















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Wed, 04-16-2003 - 9:38am
Hey Luna!

I see yer concerns and understand them. This is an advice board - and also one to let us know what DOES and DOES not work. Im the type, I like to fully read on a product before I buy it! Im also a host on other beauty boards here - On PRODUCT JUNKIES. I love going there and hearing how a product does work on ladies and if it is worth me going and trying myself. Sometimes, though - a product will work for me and not someone else or vise versa. We all have a different chemistry - and maybe a nail product will work for you but not for me! Jus how we are made! I guess to keep us on our toes at all times! LOL!

If you see something you disagree with - Then jus say I DONT AGREE! LOL! And tell us how it werks on you! Maybe it might werk or NOT for someone else!

Love your input on the board - Luna - So jus keep it fun and know we are here for ADVICE on products and how to help with your nails!

If you need anything else - You can reach me at CLStressie@hotmail.com

XO

'Stressie'