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| Thu, 11-08-2012 - 7:04am |
Jeff was telling me last night that not every state requires you to show a photo ID to vote. It's state law here. What's required in your area?
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I thought a photo ID was state law...but apparently not. This is the list off the Secretary of State's website.
Ohio law requires that every voter, upon appearing at the polling place to vote on Election Day, to announce his or her full name and current address and provide proof of the voter's identity.
The forms of identification that may be used by a voter who appears at a polling place to vote on an Election Day include:
A voter presenting an Ohio driver’s license that shows the voter’s former address is permitted to cast a regular ballot so long as the voter’s current residential address is printed in the official poll list of registered voters for that precinct. Voters who do not provide one of these documents at the precinct will still be able to vote using a provisional ballot. Voters who do not have any of the above forms of identification, including a Social Security number, will still be able to vote by signing an affirmation statement swearing to the voter’s identity under penalty of election falsification and by casting a provisional ballot.
For Voter I.D. purposes "current" means the document was issued on a date within one year immediately preceding the date of the election at which the voter seeks to vote, or has on it an expiration date which has not passed as of the date of the election in which the voter seeks to vote.
Nothing! In order to register the first time you have to show photo ID and proof of residence (utility bill, etc), but when we still had in-person voting you just walked up to the poll worker, confirmed your name and address and signed the roll. Now ballots are mailed to your home address for every election. There is a double-envelope, ballot goes in the inner one, which is unmarked, and you put that inside the outer one, which you sign and date. They have signatures on file if needed to confirm validity. Rarely done, though, I would guess.
When I voted I had to show my photo ID and voter registration card. I also signed a paper.
Well, deep poverty folks often don't HAVE picture ID. It costs money to get one ($45 for the first one here, $20 for a renewal), and a stable address to get renewal notices, etc. If it is $45 for groceries or an ID card that they only need to vote? They don't drive or have enough money to maintain bank accounts. They cash their paychecks (when they have one) and use the money until it is gone. Or they are on public assistance, which is auto-loaded on a card, now. So, it is considered racist in that the majority of people at that level of poor tend to be people of color. We've got families like that in our schools. Most don't vote, because they simply have more immediate things to worry about, like how to get food on the table and shoes that fit their growing kids, or how to make the rent so they don't get evicted. If everyone had to have ID to vote, they sure wouldn't be able to ....
It used to shock me that there were people out there who didn't have a photo ID because they couldn't afford it. I assumed it was because they were illegal immigrants - and sometimes it is- but not usually. And the undocumented people that I am aware of are laying so low, they wouldn't even think about trying to vote!
Sorry.... is my bleeding heart liberality showing? I see so many families that are trying so hard to make a better life for their kids......
Well, deep poverty folks often don't HAVE picture ID. It costs money to get one ($45 for the first one here, $20 for a renewal), and a stable address to get renewal notices, etc. If it is $45 for groceries or an ID card that they only need to vote? They don't drive or have enough money to maintain bank accounts. They cash their paychecks (when they have one) and use the money until it is gone. Or they are on public assistance, which is auto-loaded on a card, now. So, it is considered racist in that the majority of people at that level of poor tend to be people of color. We've got families like that in our schools. Most don't vote, because they simply have more immediate things to worry about, like how to get food on the table and shoes that fit their growing kids, or how to make the rent so they don't get evicted. If everyone had to have ID to vote, they sure wouldn't be able to ....
It used to shock me that there were people out there who didn't have a photo ID because they couldn't afford it. I assumed it was because they were illegal immigrants - and sometimes it is- but not usually. And the undocumented people that I am aware of are laying so low, they wouldn't even think about trying to vote!
Sorry.... is my bleeding heart liberality showing? I see so many families that are trying so hard to make a better life for their kids......
What keeps people from voter fraud then?
I have the right to fish, but I have to pay for a license. Sometimes that is a choice you make.
Yes, I am sure my total cynasicm shows.
A photo ID here is $12 with a $4 renewal fee every 4 years.
Just that a fishing license doesn't make decisions that affect your life, and the people you vote for (or don't vote for), do.
I don't actually really care about the ID issue -like I said, the poor who it discriminates against probably wouldn't vote anyway, due to many and varied reasons. Just trying to explain why it could be perceived as racist!
$2 for a renewal ??? Wow - it's $18 here ! ( I see a QOTD here!) Maggie has a state ID that cost the same. I cant remember how much it is the first time..
For voting they ask for us to fill out a card- with our name addy and a signature then she said and you can show the next person your id.. I looked at John and said " Do you have yours??" (He never carries his) The lady said thats ok if you don't .. confused me ! They did have a scanner thing hooked up to a putor that they slid our licence through..