Ariz. gun-show sellers ignored buyer red flags, N.Y. investigators say

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Mon, 01-31-2011 - 2:00pm

Ariz. gun-show sellers ignored buyer red flags, N.Y. investigators say

Weeks after a shooting rampage left six dead and 13 injured in Tucson, Ariz., New York City sent undercover investigators to an Arizona gun show and found instances in which private sellers sold semi-automatic pistols even after buyers said they probably could not pass background checks, city officials said.

By MARC LACEY

The New York Times

PHOENIX — Weeks after a shooting rampage left six dead and 13 injured in Tucson, Ariz., New York City sent undercover investigators to an Arizona gun show and found instances in which private sellers sold semi-automatic pistols even after buyers said they probably could not pass background checks, city officials said.

The investigation, part of an effort by Mayor Michael Bloomberg's administration to crack down on illegal gun sales nationwide, took place Jan. 23 at the Crossroads of the West Gun Show in Phoenix, officials said.

"Our investigation shows how easy it is for anyone to buy a semi-automatic handgun and a high-capacity magazine, no questions asked," said John Feinblatt, a policy adviser to Bloomberg. "The background-check system failed in Arizona, it failed in Virginia, and it fails in states around the country. If we don't fix it now, the question is not whether another massacre will occur, but when."

Private, unlicensed sellers are not required to run federal background checks, but it is a violation of federal law to sell guns to people if sellers suspect they are felons, mentally ill or other prohibited buyers.

In the case of Jared Lee Loughner, accused of opening fire on a Tucson crowd Jan. 8, the gun he used was bought at a licensed gun dealer and he passed a background check, officials said.

In two instances, the New York undercover officers told the sellers, "I probably couldn't pass a background check," but were still sold guns, city officials said.

In a third case, an investigator bought a Glock pistol and two high-capacity magazines like the ones used in the Tucson shooting. Such purchases were made without any background check but were perfectly legal.

Bloomberg's office, which will release details of the undercover investigation Monday, has for years pushed for tighter firearms laws. Since the Tucson shooting, Bloomberg has enlisted in his effort Daniel Hernandez, an intern in the office of Rep. Gabrielle Giffords of Arizona. The congresswoman was seriously wounded and Hernandez held her until emergency personnel arrived.

Crossroads of the West holds dozens of gun shows annually, in Arizona, California, Nevada and Utah. A representative could not be reached for comment.

After similar transgressions were uncovered at gun shows in other states, some show operators entered into agreements with New York City requiring that private sellers arrange background checks of all gun buyers.

http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/nationworld/2014086493_guns31.html

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Registered: 05-27-2010
gee...i suppose the NYT isn't trying to further their a leftist agenda here. Lol. I'll wait until the ATF has the same results after they investigate.

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Registered: 05-27-2010
Since Jared Loughtner had no record, his back ground check came back clean. He purchased his gun legally. So.......what was the point of this 'investigation' again?
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Actually, while the NYT may be reporting it, it is an investigation being run by the Mayor Bloomberg's administration in NYC.

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Doesn't make you wonder why mayor Bloomberg is concerned about AZ when violent crime in NYC is on the increase? Maybe he should worry about his own city first.
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Again, no laws were broken. Not one. I find it amazing that the NY Times can spin what happened as if it was something shady. The story was nothing more than liberals trying to further their leftist agenda without a shred of evidence that any laws were broken. Loughtner didn't buy his gun at a gun show. He passed a back ground check. So......what was the point of this story again? Oh yeah...to smear AZ once again.
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Did you read the article? I ask because nowhere in the article does it say that Loughner bought his gun at a gun show or that he shouldn't have passed a background check or many of the other things that are being spouted about.
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Of course I read the article. Your snarky response is not appreciated. I am questioning why investgators from NYC sent by Bloomberg would investgate a gun show in AZ and why the NYTimes would print such an inflammatory article when clearly no laws were broken. It appears to me like just another iberal smear piece aimed at bashing AZ. I am questioning the purpose of the article. Maybe investgators from NYC should focus on how easy it is to get a gun on the black market in NYC.
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Hah! "Snarky" after the usual "Liberal" blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, "liberal" blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, .....uhm, okay.



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Exactly. It's getting pathetic.
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It's focused nationwide, INCLUDING NYC.

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