Behind the Scenes, Christian Right Leaders Rally Behind Rick Perry

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Behind the Scenes, Christian Right Leaders Rally Behind Rick Perry
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Tue, 07-05-2011 - 10:50am

I was wondering if there was still an active "Christian Right" they've been so quiet of late.

Does Perry stand a chance in hell of being nominated by the GOP?

http://swampland.time.com/2011/07/05/behind-the-scenes-christian-right-leaders-rally-behind-rick-perry/

In early June, TIME has learned, a group of prominent figures on the Christian Right held a conference call to discuss their dissatisfaction with the current GOP presidential field, and agreed that Rick Perry would be their preferred candidate if he entered the race. Among those on the call were Tony Perkins of the Family Research Council; David Barton, the Texas activist and go-to historian for the Christian Right; and John Hagee, the controversial San Antonio pastor whose endorsement John McCain rejected in 2008.

Religious conservatives have often played a substantial role in choosing past Republican nominees, but leaders on the Christian Right have been conspicuously quiet so far in this campaign season. Privately, however, they are enthusiastic about Perry and are encouraging the Texas governor to throw his ten-gallon hat into the ring.

Perry’s favor with the Christian Right is relatively new, and he is their candidate of choice as much by default as anything. Many leaders had hoped that Mike Huckabee would make a second run for the nomination and give them a fellow religious conservative (and a Southerner) to support. When Huckabee chose to sit out the race and Haley Barbour stepped aside as well, some Christian Right bigwigs considered throwing their support behind Newt Gingrich.

The former Speaker has made religious freedom for Christians his signature issue over the past few years. And more importantly, Gingrich needs religious conservatives more than they need him — he might feel indebted to that constituency if he won, the thinking went.

 


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Registered: 11-13-2009
<< I posted none of those words you said. >> Wow. Just wow. And you now even claim I said you posted something "caustic". You're the one stirring the pot, lol.

 

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Registered: 11-27-2009

I posted none of those words you said. YOU posted YOUR trenchant, biased interpretation of my words.

What occured on the other board, belongs on the other board.

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Registered: 11-13-2009

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Registered: 11-13-2009
<< So much could actually be discusses on these boards if people didn't think they knew another posters heart and mind better than them. >> I did not say you think this, or you think that. I didn't say anything about your heart and mind, lol. I posted word for word what you said, and what could logically be deducted from that. You took offense and tell me again it's fact that women are emotional during this time. You also added that they couldn't be trusted to make a "sound" choice because of that, and you wouldn't mind if they were given (forced) information on what's going on in their own personal ,medical and life decision. A couple of your posts earlier today, on another board, disprove your stance that you never make disparaging or inflammatory remarks.

 

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Registered: 11-27-2009
What I said is fact. Do you think that any woman is not emotionally affected when they seek an abortion? Do you think that there is an appreciable number of women that are not emotional? You would be wrong and statistical data proves that out.

And yes, I did not make infammatory statements. My comments were not disparaging and condescending. Believe it or not, and I'm guessing at this point you'll choose to know me better than I know myself and my own motivations, my comments come from a point of concern. I've known more than one woman to have an abortion. I know that of those that I know, those that were emotional, had stress at the time of the procedure were the rule, not the exception. They just wanted it done and not be pregnant. They weren't even thinking about what was about to be done to them and the possible risks they were taking. The only one that was not feeling these sort of emotions was the nurse that was already very informed about the procedure.
It is you my friend that has chosen to use and continue to use the inflammatory language.

It's really a shame. So much could actually be discusses on these boards if people didn't think they knew another posters heart and mind better than them.
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Registered: 11-13-2009

You said it was a fact women are very emotional at that time, and you said because of that it wouldn't hurt for them to be "given" (forced) some information, and that they basically couldn't be relied on to make a sound choice. I wasn't too far off, if at all ----- And I can't believe you're sitting there saying you've never made inflammatory statements or disparaging remarks.

 

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Registered: 11-27-2009
"< What I support is informed consent. I don't remember where I said it, this board or another, but this is a very emotional time for a woman (studies prove it), and that increase in emotional stress does make it harder to make a sound choice. (Not a criticism of the woman, not saying she's mentally unstable, it's just a fact). Because of this, I believe that extra care needs to be taken to ensure that the woman has the information she needs to make the decision. >> Which parts did I get wrong? " Correct, that is what I said, however,
this is what you wrote about what I had said:
"I don't buy the "we have to protect those silly, uneducated, too emotional to think, women from themselves" argument. "
Now, tell me where I said any of that.
The problem is you can't because what the above is is nothing more the trenchant lies. I'm sorry to be so harsh, in the past you and I have had some fairly decent exchanges. This is, however, the second instance where you have done this recently and I don't understand the problem. I've been very open and honest about where I stand on this issue. I have not made disparaging remarks about anyone or been inflammatory regarding their comments.
Have a nice evening. Between this board and the other where this is a topic I think I'm done. I can't participate in these threads when this is being done.
I know you don't like it when it happens to you, I'm really surprised to see it done twice now.
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Registered: 11-13-2009
<< What I support is informed consent. I don't remember where I said it, this board or another, but this is a very emotional time for a woman (studies prove it), and that increase in emotional stress does make it harder to make a sound choice. (Not a criticism of the woman, not saying she's mentally unstable, it's just a fact). Because of this, I believe that extra care needs to be taken to ensure that the woman has the information she needs to make the decision. >> Which parts did I get wrong?

 

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Registered: 11-27-2009
Second time you told me what I was actually saying. Point out where I my comment reflect at all you overly biased, assumption filled, disparaging stated.

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Registered: 11-13-2009
I paraphrased... but yes. You did.

 

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