Behind the Scenes, Christian Right Leaders Rally Behind Rick Perry

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Behind the Scenes, Christian Right Leaders Rally Behind Rick Perry
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Tue, 07-05-2011 - 10:50am

I was wondering if there was still an active "Christian Right" they've been so quiet of late.

Does Perry stand a chance in hell of being nominated by the GOP?

http://swampland.time.com/2011/07/05/behind-the-scenes-christian-right-leaders-rally-behind-rick-perry/

In early June, TIME has learned, a group of prominent figures on the Christian Right held a conference call to discuss their dissatisfaction with the current GOP presidential field, and agreed that Rick Perry would be their preferred candidate if he entered the race. Among those on the call were Tony Perkins of the Family Research Council; David Barton, the Texas activist and go-to historian for the Christian Right; and John Hagee, the controversial San Antonio pastor whose endorsement John McCain rejected in 2008.

Religious conservatives have often played a substantial role in choosing past Republican nominees, but leaders on the Christian Right have been conspicuously quiet so far in this campaign season. Privately, however, they are enthusiastic about Perry and are encouraging the Texas governor to throw his ten-gallon hat into the ring.

Perry’s favor with the Christian Right is relatively new, and he is their candidate of choice as much by default as anything. Many leaders had hoped that Mike Huckabee would make a second run for the nomination and give them a fellow religious conservative (and a Southerner) to support. When Huckabee chose to sit out the race and Haley Barbour stepped aside as well, some Christian Right bigwigs considered throwing their support behind Newt Gingrich.

The former Speaker has made religious freedom for Christians his signature issue over the past few years. And more importantly, Gingrich needs religious conservatives more than they need him — he might feel indebted to that constituency if he won, the thinking went.

 


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You may have a point regarding an ectopic pregnancy. However, that should be up to the physician to decide if and/or when an ultrasound is needed, not something that is legislated by anti-abortion, non-medical people.
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Thanks, my point in asking is that surgical are done as medical or chemical abortions have limits on gestational age. Therefore, there are benefits and medical indications for ultrasound. They may not fit every patient, but to suggest that there ultrasounds are not medically indicated for abortion in inaccurate.

According to a 2000 CDC report 98% of abortions were done as a curettage and 1% were medical. Can you link me to your source that says that most are medical/chemical abortions? Do you have more up to date information? I would think that that is the preferred method for gestational age < or = 9 weeks.
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Registered: 11-27-2009
You took my words out of context. If you refer back to my post you can see how I address that question.
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The medical abortions weren't really being done in 2000 (if I recall my reading that correctly). The most recent info I found was from 2008 and they were becoming more common. There is definitely the time limitation that is a major factor regarding medical abortions. I may have been wrong about stating that the majority of early abortions are medical, not surgical. I can't find exact data on that. Medical abortions are definitely not done after 9 weeks and work best if done by 7 weeks.
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I just looked again and I really don't see how I took your words out of context.
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Registered: 11-27-2009
Actually, some of that information would be very helpful for a patient to determining what options they would like to pursue or in caring for themselves in a diseased state. Ex. Diabetes, it would be very helpful for a patient to understand how their body handles glucose and insulin differently and how the medication and or diet adjusts for the abnormalities in their bodies functions. It can help them to make better choices when they choose to skip a dose, ignore symptoms, sneak some extra sweets. I've seen it first hand. I know a young man with type 1 that was on a pump, he felt too much security with the pump and skipped readings, one day a man (who luckily knew about diabetes) found him disoriented by the side of the road, he put him in his car, recognized the symptoms, fortunately my friend was conscious and could acknowledge his condition, and the man gave him some teddy grahms (good thing the man was a dad too driving the family van). Understand the vascular nature of a tumor prior to surgery could help a patient determine if surgery is the route they want. A very vascular tumor increases surgical risks significantly and decreases chance of surgical success in retrieving all the tumor. Understanding the location of that tumor and the surrounding organs could aid the patient in understanding implications of removal, partial removal, or chemo then surgery.
Knowledge only aides in making an informed decision.
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Registered: 11-27-2009
I never said that I agreed with them and none of my comments have been in support of the legislation. What I have said is that it is nothing but opinion that the motivation of supporters of mandatory ultrasound prior to abortion is to humiliate. I countered that and stated that it is more likely to encourage the mom to change her mind after seeing the image. As I said, I'll locate those resources later, I am supposed to be studying for a certification test on Saturday so I really need to control my impulses to see responses and get back to work.
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I think they would be if they have a stat for them. Can you give me your link? I don't mind being updated and having factual information.
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Registered: 05-03-2011
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You don't need to look those up for me. I've seen various things where people have stated that they want to change a pregnant woman's mind. As to needing to control impulses, I've got the same problem today. I just got back from vacation to discover that no one covered my work and I'm swamped. :-)
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I think I got that information from Guttmacher. I've really got to get to work now.

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