Blacks' Wealth 20 Times Less Than Whites in U.S.A.

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Blacks' Wealth 20 Times Less Than Whites in U.S.A.
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Tue, 07-26-2011 - 10:25pm

I heard all over the news today that the average household wealth for blacks is about $5,300 and for whites it is around $113,500. This is the highest wealth difference between blacks and whites ever. Is it time to increase affirmative action programs for blacks?

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Registered: 06-07-2011
((I'd rather have had those students in my classroom than some of the disruptive poorly mannered children who had no excuse for their bad behavior that I ended up having and whose parents didn't care.))

There are plenty of those too. Rude, sassy kids who backtalk teachers. They have absolutely no respect or fear of authority because they know the teacher can't do anything. We have created monsters!

After doing several long term sub jobs in my DD's school, I advocated that our wealthy PTA put cameras in all the classrooms and they would be closed circuit. I think it would protect the children AND the teachers. I have seen many teachers get accused of doing something they never did because " little Johnny" is a big fibber and his parents believe EVERYTHING he says.

I'll bet most parents today would be shocked at how rude their children can be to the teachers. But hey, what do you expect when they watch shows on Disney that show any adult authority figure as an idiot. Most school principals are complete bozos and it's always the sassy back-talking kids who know what's going on. Teachers, principals and police officers are usually always shown as complete baffoons.
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Do you seriously think that stopped discrimination?

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Registered: 03-30-2007

When my son was in school, I was told that if I didn't have him put on meds., they (the school) would call CPS.

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Registered: 11-27-2009
The pendulum has swung far on education rights and the disabled. It goes back as far as The Rehabilitation Act of 1973 which prevents discrimination based on a disability. For schools it meant that children with disabilities must receive accommodations to participate in the school environment to their fullest. Next came the Individuals with Disabilities Act of 2004 (better known as IDEA). IDEA mandates that all children with disabilities are provided a Free and Appropriate Public Education (FAPE). With this the pendulum has swung and I got my first job in the school system caring for children that require some level of medical care/observation during the school day. I have cared for kids with trach's and cancer, kids with genetic syndromes resulting in significant cognitive limitations, to kids with CP that are non-verbal, non-weight bearing with no fine or gross motor skills. Cognitive functioning has been from the 3month old level to maxing out at about 3rd or 4th grade. For most of these kids we are, in reality, a baby sitting service that is required by law. We do do good things though, with a focus on life skills, and just maintaining the highest level of function possible. The social aspect for these kids is undeniable. Most of these kids that are verbal came from mainstreamed classes through middle school. When in elementary and middle school these kids are not doing age level work, it is modified to their cognitive grade level ability. At schools where there is money, the kids get an aid that works one on one. This doesn't eliminate the need for the teacher to switch gears in the classroom and attend to these kids, they must do that, but it does prevent the teacher from having to spend an unbalanced amount of time with that struggling child and taking time away from the average kids (I hate using "normal" and "abnormal" as descriptors. To be honest, I find that the ELL (limited English speaking students) take away more time.
When there are behavior issues, it is a challenge and the student is entitled to due process, which is lengthy, before that student can be removed from a classroom. Those same rights are not afforded to an average student that would display the same behaviors.
Socially, there are benefits for all the kids. Those without disabilities learn about these kids, they find out they aren't so scary, they have feelings, they laugh, they cry, they eat and drink, they like music.... they have similarities.
Many people think that it benefits kids with behavioral issues to be placed with these special needs kids. That they will see that there are others that have it worse then them....., nope, I don't see it. Yes, they find compassion for these kids. But they don't see that these kids face daily challenges and do not complain, they meet them head on, so therefore I just need to face my problems.... Kids are selfish. They really don't see past their own problems that way.
What parents of special needs kids fail to see, and I understand their desire for their child to experience as much of life as the average child does, the interaction between and relationships between the average students and disabled students are not the same as between peers that function on the same level.

I used to think that the pendulum would swing back to a more appropriate position, but I don't think it will. Placement in the public school in an appropriate way can be a good thing for the student, and sometimes we don't service them well at all when their needs are more physical and simply interaction, and instead we are still trying to get them to learn their colors or hold a crayon at age 17.
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Registered: 11-27-2009
"When you say "normal distribution," that means that those with ADD/ADHD don't necessarily have low IQs as compared to the rest of the population, though some people seem to think that those kids are dumb. That's not usually the case. "Higher IQ's" as the previous poster stated would be correct as the original poster was talking about low IQ ADD kids. "

I don't know who Dr Ferarri is, but I can tell you that the experts do not agree. I have an ADHD child, worked in child psych, and have read many a book and research article on ADHD. When I say "normal distribution" that means that high IQ is no more prevelant in the ADHD population than the regular population. You are correct though, ADHD kids do not have a lower IQ range than the general population either.
They are not dumb, but they are not board smart kids either.
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Registered: 11-27-2009
When the heck did I ever say that? I know you don't like when people put words in your mouth, please afford me the same consideration. Wow!
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Registered: 05-03-2011
Ah, that might be the difference since I wasn't teaching back then.
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Registered: 11-27-2009
The school cannot force anyone to take meds. They were very wrong to threaten you that way. As iluvkrat said, that would be considered practicing medicine without a license. They would have to prove you were being negligent for not medicating your child.
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Registered: 05-03-2011
Excellent explanation.
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Registered: 05-13-2009
You're ok with a non-diverse education?

"LOL"?

Good luck with that.

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