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Registered: 01-02-2008
Wed, 01-18-2012 - 10:01am

the whole thing is gone for now.. Congress wants to stop websites?? what is going on?

what other sites are there for what CL has to offer???

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Registered: 05-03-2011
Wed, 01-18-2012 - 10:28am
It's just for 24 hours.
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Registered: 07-11-2006
Wed, 01-18-2012 - 11:12am

Google, Wiki and Craigslist would be adversely affected by the proposed legislation. Why are they considering it? What good does it do?:smileyindifferent:

[Yes, I'm too lazy today to investigate it myself]

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Registered: 03-03-2009
Wed, 01-18-2012 - 11:52am
SOPA and PIPA. They're bills (one in the House, the other in the Senate) which are geared towards stopping piracy and copyright infringement. But some major online players are saying that they could also have the effect of censoring and restricting the ebb and flow of internet information. Read more at

So, like Google and Wikipedia, apparently Craig's List is making a statement until midnight. Things will (theoretically) be back to normal tomorrow.


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Registered: 03-18-2000
Wed, 01-18-2012 - 12:01pm
Sopa: Sites go dark as part of anti-piracy law protests

Thousands of internet sites are taking part in a "blackout" protest against anti-piracy laws being discussed by US lawmakers.

The Wikipedia encyclopedia and blogging service WordPress are among the highest profile pages to remove material.

Google is showing solidarity by placing a black box over its logo when US-based users visit its site.

The Motion Picture Association of America has branded the action as "irresponsible" and a "stunt".

Visitors to Wikipedia's English-language site are greeted by a dark page with white text that says: "Imagine a world without free knowledge... The US Congress is considering legislation that could fatally damage the free and open internet. For 24 hours, to raise awareness, we are blacking out Wikipedia."

It provides a link to more details about the House of Representatives' Stop Online Piracy Act (Sopa) and the Senate's Protect Intellectual Property Act (Pipa).

If users try to access its other pages via search sites, the text briefly flashes up before being replaced by the protest page. However, people have been sharing workarounds to disable the redirect.

Global protest

WordPress's homepage displays a video which claims that Sopa "breaks the internet" and asks users to add their name to a petition asking Congress to stop the bill.

"The authors of the legislation don't seem to really understand how the internet works," the site's co-founder, Matt Mullenweg told the BBC.

Across the globe, several Pirate Party sites have been taken offline. The political parties - which advocate reform of copyright laws - took the action in the UK, Spain, Sweden, Argentina, Canada and elsewhere.

The news recommendation site Reddit, the online magazine Boing Boing, the software download service Tucows and the German hackers' group the Chaos Computer Congress also removed access to their content.

The tech news site Wired covered its headlines and pictures with black boxes which were only removed when covered with the cursor.

The US news website Politico estimated that 7,000 sites were involved by early Wednesday morning.


The moves were described as an "abuse of power" by one of the highest profile supporters of the anti-piracy bills.

"Some technology business interests are resorting to stunts that punish their users or turn them into their corporate pawns, rather than coming to the table to find solutions to a problem that all now seem to agree is very real and damaging," said Senator Chris Dodd, the chairman of the Motion Picture Association of America.

"It is an irresponsible response and a disservice to people who rely on them for information... A so-called 'blackout' is yet another gimmick, albeit a dangerous one, designed to punish elected and administration officials who are working diligently to protect American jobs from foreign criminals."

The US Chamber of Commerce said that the claims against the legislation had been overstated.

"[The sponsors] announced they would roll back the provisions of these bills designed to block foreign criminal websites, striking a major conciliatory note with those who raised legitimate concerns," said Steve Tepp, chief intellectual property counsel at the chamber's Global Intellectual Property Center.

"That was on top of the changes that guarantee the bill applies only to foreign sites. What remains are two pieces of legislation that are narrowly tailored and commercially reasonable for taking an effective swipe at the business models of rogue sites."

The proposed legislation would allow the Department of Justice and content owners to seek court orders against any site accused of "enabling or facilitating" piracy.

Sopa also calls for search engines to remove infringing sites from their results. Pipa does not include this provision.

'Threat to innovation'

Google posted a blog on the subject claiming that the bills would not stop piracy.

"Pirate sites would just change their addresses in order to continue their criminal activities," it said.

"There are better ways to address piracy than to ask US companies to censor the internet. The foreign rogue sites are in it for the money, and we believe the best way to shut them down is to cut off their sources of funding."

Other net firms that have criticised the legislation decided not to take part in the blackout.

Twitter's founder, Dick Costolo, tweeted that it would be "foolish" to take the service offline.

Facebook declined to comment on the page blackouts but referred users to a new page posted by its Washington DC division which said: "The bills contain overly broad definitions and create a new private cause of action against companies on the basis of those expansive definitions, which could seriously hamper the innovation, growth, and investment in new companies that have been the hallmarks of the internet."


The events coincided with news that the US House of Representatives plans to resume work on Sopa next month.

The chairman of the House Judiciary Committee, Lamar Smith, said: "I am committed to continuing to work with my colleagues in the House and Senate to send a bipartisan bill to the White House."

The Senate is expected to start voting on 24 January on how to proceed on Pipa.

Even if Congress approves the bills, President Barack Obama may decide to veto them.

The White House issued a statement at the weekend saying that "we will not support legislation that reduces freedom of expression, increases cybersecurity risk, or undermines the dynamic, innovative global internet".

More info. here.........



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Registered: 08-30-2002
Wed, 01-18-2012 - 3:33pm

I wonder how they will feel when we all

iVillage Member
Registered: 03-03-2009
Wed, 01-18-2012 - 4:26pm

I could live without the internet but have found that as is the case for any powerful and very handy tool, life would be less convenient (for lack of a better word).


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Registered: 03-18-2000
Thu, 01-19-2012 - 8:25am
Yes we managed without the internet, & other conveniences, but Pandora's box has been opened. ;)



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Registered: 02-05-2011
Thu, 01-19-2012 - 8:48am
If you still have a landline, consider getting a free service like Google Voice, which runs over broadband internet. Free calls to the U.S. and Canada, porting a number in costs $20. If you want, calls can be made via your phone using an ATA from a place like obitalk. Cost per phone line and per calls $0. For cell phones, I still like the Virgin Mobile unlimited internet / text, 300 minute talk plans. $25 flat plus any applicable sales tax. No 911 fees, no other hidden fees. I'd rather get a free landline via VOIP and have a $25 a month cell phone, than pay for a landline and not have any cell.
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Registered: 08-30-2002
Thu, 01-19-2012 - 1:34pm

We don't have broadband in our area. We live rurally and at times our power is out for days or even weeks, so we'll keep our landline. We ahve a generator but don't run it 24/7 at these times.