Flying the Confederate Flag

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Flying the Confederate Flag
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Mon, 09-26-2011 - 5:16pm

I got slammed in the past for my (possibly) extreme view on this topic, so I'm going to wait before I post it.

 

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Fri, 09-30-2011 - 1:03pm
We all know it wasn't the only reason, but it was one of the major ones. Yes...we know...economics was the reason. The southerners wanted to keep their slave labor so that they could continue to cheaply run their large plantations & live the life of Riley. So, therefore, while many assert that it wasn't 'the reason', it was definitely a BIG part of it.

However, for many, THE reason WAS the inhumanity of owning another person. The way the slaves were treated in many cases. Their families torn apart & sold to different owners; female slaves taken advantage of; etc.

 nwtreehugger  

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Sat, 10-01-2011 - 2:26am

What are you talking about?

chaika

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Sat, 10-01-2011 - 4:36pm
LOL! Every time a GOP candidate loses, the rural areas want to split from the suburban/urban ones! ;) Hasn't happened yet.

I admit curiosity as to where the cost of slaves 'today' comes from, since the last time I checked it was illegal in the U.S. As for the rest, I am talking about the southern held slaves. Indentured serfs/servants could work their way out of servitude.

I never stated that people have been nice to each other at any time in history. However, that doesn't mean that it is ever acceptable. Nor does it mean that people of that time found such behavior acceptable either!

 nwtreehugger  

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Sat, 10-01-2011 - 9:27pm

"I am talking about the southern held slaves. Indentured serfs/servants could work their way out of servitude."

chaika

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Mon, 10-03-2011 - 1:00pm
I'm sorry but your definition of slavery is different than mine. I'm not talking about those who, for various reasons, can't work their way out of poverty. I'm talking about people who have no access to any rights. Who are the property of other people. Where, in today's US, is that allowed? People may not make use of their rights...or perhaps feel so downtrodden that they don't feel it's worth it...but that does not mean that those rights aren't there. For true slaves, there are no rights - they are owned by others & only allowed what their 'owners' allow them.

This is not a metaphorical discussion. If that's not what you're talking about, then I don't understand your point.

 nwtreehugger  

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Tue, 10-04-2011 - 12:20am

I take it that the complexity of slavery is difficult to get your head around.

chaika

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Tue, 10-04-2011 - 1:01am
It's not that the "complexity" of slavery is difficult for any of us to understand, it's trying to understand your posts that is difficult. So come down off your high horse.

 

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Registered: 05-03-2011
Tue, 10-04-2011 - 11:07am
Not true. The courts have ruled that illegal aliens have all sorts of civil rights in this country, practically all of the same ones that citizens enjoy.
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Tue, 10-04-2011 - 11:52am
I have no problem with the concept of 'slavery'. thank you. I do have a problem understanding what your point is. We are discussing slavery in the context of the American Civil War & the Confederate Flag.

There is no legal slavery in the U.S. now. Anyone caught doing such a thing would be fully prosecuted.

If you are discussing hypothetical slavery due to socio-economic factors, then that is something altogether different & does not fit the definition of 'slavery' that I am addressing in a historical context.

 nwtreehugger  

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Tue, 10-04-2011 - 12:01pm
The other day I took a mini-roadtrip and saw a highway billboard, in Spanish, which urged the reporting of human trafficking and exploitation of undocumented workers. Maybe that's the sort of thing xxxs has in mind but you're correct--the whole intent of the ad was to nab and prosecute people who engaged in that kind of exploitation.

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