Good News, Gas Prices are going up:

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Good News, Gas Prices are going up:
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Mon, 04-18-2011 - 12:19pm

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Registered: 11-13-2009
Fri, 04-22-2011 - 9:39pm

But Tom, you said that those particular taxes would hopefully be redistributed to the poor. If it were to happen today, maybe it would be part of the $25 million I hear we're going to give to the rebels in Libya. I doubt it would go to subsidize the poor even further.

<< I'm sure that everyone who does not lose a loved one would be happier, but of course they would never know that they would have lost a loved one if gas prices did not go up. >>

Nonsensical.

I believe the wealthier would be happier than the poor. That's good for me and you, right?

So even though I have to dig into my food budget for gas this next week, I'm better off than those who will have to sit home with less food, gas and disposable money.

 

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Registered: 02-05-2011
Fri, 04-22-2011 - 10:07pm
Energy assistance near me requires that I provide a private charity (who have no way to safely or securely manage it) the social security numbers and birth dates of every resident of my home.The charity is run by our local Hispanic center, the center supports open borders, and is hostile toward anyone who believes an American should have any right that someone undocumented doesn't. This is a ticket to identity theft. A family of 5 making over $48,000 qualifies for $0, lower income families qualify for up to $600 in assistance (per year) for oil. Many heat their homes in the northeast with oil.

At $4 per gallon, that is 150 gallons of oil. In winter, many homes will use that in a few weeks (or less) keeping the thermostat at 70. Assuming there is a greater risk of identity theft for families that apply for or receive help, they will also have to contend with all sorts of problems arising from their government "help" for which no one in government will be held liable. Fixing an identity theft can be costly, particularly the theft of a child's identity.

We often put the poor in a situation where they have no privacy, have to jump though many hoops to get anything, and wind up spending a lot of time contending with the bureaucrats who oversee their lives.

So yes, we can get government help, but there are a slew of other problems that can be created along with that help. Those who benefit most from wealth transfer are government bureaucrats.
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Registered: 02-15-2007
Sat, 04-23-2011 - 8:58am

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Registered: 11-13-2009
Sat, 04-23-2011 - 11:04am
LOL, now you know how I feel.

Yes, I brought up $10 a gallon gas. You said the higher the better. Poor people would be happier, cause they wouldn't know they might have lost loved ones in an accident, even though they're sitting at home, unable to go to the places you mentioned; movies, restaurants, parks.. Doesn't hurt to keep them off the roads to keep the rest of us safe, along with them, of course..

What would be your alternative to automobiles not being invented?

I know I'd rather not ride a horse for 2 days to get back and forth to my nearest grocery store.

Too bad our posts aren't to your liking.





 

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Registered: 02-05-2011
Sat, 04-23-2011 - 11:10am
Tom,
If you really felt high oil prices were good, because fewer would die on the highway. I can respect that. Yet you aren't opposed to CAFE which kills more than higher speed limits. Can you help me to understand why you aren't opposed to CAFE?
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Registered: 04-07-2002
Sat, 04-23-2011 - 11:22am
I just feel that the number of people who will end up suffering because of this will far outnumber those who die on our freeways. Yes, saving a life is always a good thing...but think how many may die because they can no longer afford medications...or the right kind of foods...etc.

 nwtreehugger  

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Registered: 04-07-2002
Sat, 04-23-2011 - 11:25am
Yep...$3.859/gallon - has been at that for around a week now. However, there are other areas in-city where the price is $4.159 - just depends on how much competition is in any given area. I'm lucky to live in part of the city where we have competition - plus I'm not far from the City limits & the County limits - which increases the competition as well.

 nwtreehugger  

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Registered: 11-13-2009
Sat, 04-23-2011 - 11:53am
You won't believe what I did this morning!

I had to drive over an hour away, and found gas for $3.55. I was on the way to a bank in another town, and only had $23 cash on me. Put it all in the tank, went to the bank, and forgot to stop on the way back and fill it the rest of the way up! I thought about using my card while there, but then thought, nope. I'll just stop on the way back.... and I totally forgot. It's $3.79 - $3.84 around here.

The way I look at it is... I'm going to keep driving, period. Only the poorer people will be put off the roads. (I sometimes feel like I'm almost there, but thankfully, I'm not.)

 

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