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Registered: 11-27-2009
Thu, 08-18-2011 - 7:57pm
No, they aren't guesses, obesity is directly related to many secondary diseases that do influence life expectancy. Simply because not everyone that is morbidly obese dies younger it does not mean that there isn't an affect. I'm curious also as to what type of year parameters you are talking about? If you note, life expectancy between countries does not vary by decades, it's years. Morbid obesity can take up to 10 years off a person's life span. There are many variables in there as well; including why the person is obese and the length of time the person is morbidly obese. Health is also not just about weight, a person that is thin can be more unhealthy due to eating habits than someone that is overweight.
I can't promise, I keep saying that when I get a chance I'll look for articles, but I am running out of time before school starts up again and I have no free time. I'll do my best to find some studies for you with the obesity life expectancy correlation. That said, life expectancy and its relationship to obesity is a minor point when it comes to the US health system, as one of the fattest countries, the real impact of obesity is on health care costs.
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Registered: 11-27-2009
Thu, 08-18-2011 - 8:02pm
No, more data is not needed to determine that the stats are not completely comparable when the data being collected is not done in a consistent manner from country to country.
It's basic statistics. I spent last semester in a graduate level stats class and a politics and policy class for nursing and discussed this topic. Interestingly enough, the authors of both texts- admitted universal health care supporters and avid promoters- acknowledged that the WHO stats are misleading because of inconsistent data collection methods.
You can continue to disagree with me, but facts are facts and scholars agree with my pov on this.




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Registered: 08-12-2011
Thu, 08-18-2011 - 8:13pm

Got it.

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Registered: 08-12-2011
Thu, 08-18-2011 - 9:06pm

There is so much spinning and obfuscation that I hardly know where to start.

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Registered: 08-12-2011
Thu, 08-18-2011 - 9:15pm

I think the issue is with "obesity" vs "morbidly obesity"...and even then discussions are frought with "could" and "might."

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Registered: 11-27-2009
Thu, 08-18-2011 - 9:30pm
It's the secondary health issues that are created by the obesity that typically result in a shorter life span. So technically you are correct, being obese is not the actual cause of death. But it's a tit for tat type argument. Obesity does have a negative influence on life span, and it doesn't have to be morbid obesity. And relevant to this thread, the high obesity rates in the US is one of the factors that results in a lower trend in life expectancy. Other countries are catching up, and some are experiencing the increase in health care costs related to obesity, which, IMHO, is really much more important issue than life expectancy. If someone doesn't care if they loose 3 or 5 years due to eating habits who am I to judge? But when it comes to health care costs, that does, and will even more, if Obama and liberals get their wish and we eventually get universal health care.
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Fri, 08-19-2011 - 3:51am

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Fri, 08-19-2011 - 3:54am

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