At Least 4 Dead in Navy Yard Shooting

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At Least 4 Dead in Navy Yard Shooting
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Mon, 09-16-2013 - 1:42pm

This is still a breaking news story, with not much information yet on the shooters: 

A man brandishing an assault rifle, shotgun and handgun opened fire Monday inside a building at the Washington Navy Yard — killing at least four people and wounding at least eight more, including two police officers, authorities said.

SWAT officers swarmed the building, the headquarters of the Naval Sea Systems Command, and a shooter there was killed, sources told NBC News.

The Washington police chief said there could be as many as two other shooters at large, one white and one black, both in military-style uniforms. But there was no confirmation of more than one person firing shots. Federal officials said the information appeared to be based on eyewitness reports and surveillance footage.

President Barack Obama said the rampage targeted patriots, military and civilian alike, “men and women who were going to work, doing their job, protecting all of us.”

Read more: http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/09/16/20522196-gunman-opens-fire-at-navy-yard-in-washington-killing-at-least-4?lite

I hope that there aren't more casualties and the perpetrators have been caught.  Why do you think someone would do this?

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Mon, 09-16-2013 - 1:51pm

How terrible. I wouldn't have any idea why someone would go plan and carry out the murdering of other people. If there is more than one sick person involved then I'm sure it is probably some whacko group with some sort of whacko message they want to make known.

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Mon, 09-16-2013 - 2:39pm
They are now reporting that 12 people are dead :( http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/09/16/20522196-at-least-12-killed-in-shooting-rampage-at-washington-navy-yard-chief-says?lite

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Mon, 09-16-2013 - 3:20pm
It makes me sick each and every time I hear about one of these stories. You should feel safe when you go to work, not worry about a lunatic on the loose with a gun. Or, in this case, it sounds like it was a group of men. I just saw that they identified one of them (the gunman that was killed ) but are still searching for two more suspects. http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2013/09/16/navy-yard-shooting/2819543/
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Tue, 09-17-2013 - 6:51pm

Just one loon and no assault rifle... and once again, a person with clearly evident mental issues that were ignored.

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Sat, 09-21-2013 - 12:59pm

Aaron Alexis apparently had mental health issues though he didn't consistently demonstrate symptoms.  This piece in the NYT covers some of the issues:  http://www.newyorker.com/online/blogs/newsdesk/2013/09/psychiatry-mass-shootings-aaron-alexis-mental-illness.html

At least Alexis was denied the "right" to buy an assault weapon.  The carnage, bad as it was, could have been much worse.  One wonders though, how the RKBA crowd can possibly deny that all firearms are NOT appropriate for all settings and all people.  They consistently ignore the introductory clause of the Second Amendment--specifically the words "well-regulated militia" and "security of a free state". 

MAD didn't work as a foreign policy, and it fares no better in a complex and interdependent domestic setting.   Most gun rights advocates are operating not at a level of logic but of emotionalism.   IMHO, they are self absorbed.  Paranoid.  Shortsighted.  Lethal.  And they have no place in a civil society which relies on successful conversation and democratic principles. 

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Tue, 09-24-2013 - 2:28am

Aaron Alexis apparently had mental health issues though he didn't consistently demonstrate symptoms.

They were demonstrated clearly enough on numerous occasions, as was his penchant for criminal activity, that he should never have been allowed to purchase a gun or get a high level security pass to a military installation.

At least Alexis was denied the "right" to buy an assault weapon.  The carnage, bad as it was, could have been much worse.  One wonders though, how the RKBA crowd can possibly deny that all firearms are NOT appropriate for all settings and all people.  They consistently ignore the introductory clause of the Second Amendment--specifically the words "well-regulated militia" and "security of a free state".

First, the anti-gun crowd consistently ignores the Supreme Court ruling regarding the introductory clause of the Second Amendment.  Second, it's not a surprise that almost all mass shootings take place in gun-free zones and end when the shooters are confronted by armed opposition.  If citizens were allowed to carry weapons, it's likely that the Alexis would have been able to get off more than one or two shots.  The same can be said about most mass shootings.

Most gun rights advocates are operating not at a level of logic but of emotionalism. IMHO, they are self absorbed.  Paranoid.  Shortsighted.  Lethal.  And they have no place in a civil society which relies on successful conversation and democratic principles.

Funny, I was about to say that about the anti-gun crowd.  Their ideology is based on ignorance, fear and a persistend denial of the facts.  Fortunatelly, our Founding Fathers were of sounder minds.