Low-flow toilets cause a stink in SF

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Registered: 02-05-2011
Low-flow toilets cause a stink in SF
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Mon, 02-28-2011 - 11:48am

SF tries to be at the cutting edge of environmentalism. Sometimes they get it right, sometimes not. Newer ultra low flush toilets don't generate enough water for the SF sewer system to cleanse itself. The result is a big stink. Oddly the city plans to flush the sewer with highly concentrated bleach. While I don't want the rotten egg smell of sewage near my home or work, I'm not a fan of concentrated bleach smell either. Is the world running out of water? What effect will concentrated bleach have on sewage treatment plants?

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Registered: 03-18-2000
Mon, 02-28-2011 - 12:19pm

Yuck sounds really unpleasant. Don't they recycle the water at sewerage plants?

Last year in the central valley, in CA, there was a water shortage so yes there's a problem.

We remodeled our bathrooms a few years ago & found the only new toilets are the low flush variety. In our house it's redundant we have out own well & sewage system. Yes we have to flush twice except for the most minimum use.

I lived in S.CA for many years & when taking a bath you could smell the chlorine in the water so it can't be too harmful.

Bleach and the Environment

http://www.factsaboutbleach.com/bleach_and_the_environment.html

 


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Registered: 04-07-2002
Mon, 02-28-2011 - 12:37pm
I've been noticing a lot of dual-flush toilets around here lately - both in the home stores & in the nicer department stores. We currently have low-flush & they work fine for us...so we're lucky!

 nwtreehugger  

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Registered: 08-30-2002
Mon, 02-28-2011 - 7:10pm

I think this is a classic example of old infrastructure and new technology not being compatible. Kind of like we see with electronics and the electrical grid in some places.

Low flow toilets are good, in theory, but they are still working the bugs out. They actually have some "dual flush" models that use more or less water as needed. When we were doing our remodel, we were supposed to put in a low flow, even though we have our own septic system. But we wanted to keep the old, vintage toilet. The inspector either never noticed, or didn't care.

As for chlorine. That's what they use to purify our water, up here in the Sierras. We figured out that they do some kind of push with the stuff on Wednesday nights, when we sleep, because Thursday AM, when you turn on the faucet, you could smell the chlorine coming off the water,



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Registered: 03-09-2001
Wed, 03-02-2011 - 8:58pm
That's what happens when major so-called supposedly environmental friendly changes are forced down people's throats without gov't first making sure the infrastructure to support the changes is in place. Typical too fast too soon stupidity. :|


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Gypsy

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Registered: 08-30-2002
Thu, 03-03-2011 - 11:46am

It doesen't mean the environmentally friendly changes aren't good, or something we shouldn't evolve towards, though. But we need to look at the big picture. Just like the development of the internet showed us that our phone, cable, and electrical grids weren't up to par. We need to do what needs to be done, not throw out the baby with the bathwater, which seems to be what the naysayers want to do.



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Registered: 04-07-2002
Thu, 03-03-2011 - 12:45pm
Exactly! And that's why I'm glad that the introduction to the electric car is been done more carefully. Plus, as you pointed out, there are instances where the changes have highlighted problems we may not have realized we had.

 nwtreehugger  

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Registered: 02-05-2011
Thu, 03-03-2011 - 1:43pm

There is probably some science regarding the viscosity of sewage and how much water it needs to flow. Unfortunately with enough money, anyone can get any scientific answer they want. Of late government seems to reward and punish scientists based on the answers they give to questions.

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Registered: 03-09-2001
Thu, 03-03-2011 - 2:24pm


i-agree.gif Yes, that's my point, though. Sometimes our legislators or whatever powers that be decide to implement something like this, are either ignorant or just want to "look good at being environmentally savvy and supportive" when really they haven't thought major changes through and the consequences. Or to first prepare the supporting systems before making the change. It happens too many times. And we as consumers are left to deal with the mess, and then waste our tax dollars that could have been saved if they hadn't put the carriage before the horse in the first place.



Blessings,

Gypsy

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Registered: 03-09-2001
Thu, 03-03-2011 - 2:29pm

i-agree.gif Exactly!


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Gypsy

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