Is Obamacare a “conservative” idea?

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Registered: 07-30-2004
Is Obamacare a “conservative” idea?
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Thu, 10-10-2013 - 9:45am

      To start with I want to say that I am not necessarily in favor of or opposed to Obamacare.  It does appear to me from what I have read and heard that prior to 2010 there have been people who call themselves “conservatives” who have supported health plans that were very similar to Obamacare.  For example the following was reported in “The Washington Post” of December 12, 2011:

      Gingrich and Romney engaged in a brief but heated spat during the Oct. 18 GOP debate after the former speaker criticized Massachusetts’s health-care reform program as a big-government, high-cost solution for covering the uninsured. Here’s how the exchange unfolded:

Romney: Actually, Newt, we got the idea of an individual mandate from you.

Gingrich: That’s not true. You got it from the Heritage Foundation.

Romney: Yes, we got it from you, and you got it from the Heritage Foundation and from you.

Gingrich: Wait a second. What you just said is not true. You did not get that from me. You got it from the Heritage Foundation.

Romney: And you never supported them?

Gingrich: I agree with them, but I’m just saying, what you said to this audience just now plain wasn’t true.

Romney: OK. Let me ask, have you supported in the past an individual mandate?

Gingrich: I absolutely did with the Heritage Foundation against Hillarycare.

 

      Now Obamacare is very similar to and appears to have been taken for the most part from Mitt Romney’s healthcare program for Massachusetts.  So, based on the above it appears that both Newt Gingrich and Mitt Romney have admitted that they had supported a health care program that is very similar to Obamacare including the individual mandate and Newt Gingrich is saying that he agreed with the Heritage Foundation in regard to support of such a healthcare program.  The Washington Post article is here.

      Further an article from the “Tampa Bay Times” entitled “RomneyCare and ObamaCare: Can you tell the difference?” states the following in regard to both plans: “Both leave in place the major insurance systems: employer-provided insurance, Medicare for seniors and Medicaid for the poor. They seek to reduce the number of uninsured by expanding Medicaid and by offering tax breaks to help moderate income people buy insurance. People are required to buy insurance or pay a penalty, a mechanism called the "individual mandate." And companies that don't offer insurance have to pay fines, with exceptions for small business and a few other cases.

      An article from the “The Daily Beast” entitled “Romneycare and Obamacare Differ Only in Inconsequential Ways” is similar as it is stated in this article that “Romney is struggling to distance himself from the health care law he passed while governor of Massachusetts, and no wonder – the state and federal plans are virtually identical.”

      Tom,

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Registered: 03-03-2009
Thu, 10-10-2013 - 10:21am

Before Romneycare, there was Heritagecare--and Heritage is a conservative think tank.

We would include a mandate in our proposal–not a mandate on employers, but a mandate on heads of households–to obtain at least a basic package of health insurance for themselves and their families. That would have to include, by federal law, a catastrophic provision in the form of a stop loss for a family’s total health outlays. It would have to include all members of the family, and it might also include certain very specific services, such as preventive care, well baby visits, and other items.

http://www.forbes.com/sites/theapothecary/2011/10/20/how-a-conservative-think-tank-invented-the-individual-mandate/

So, yes.  The Affordable Care Act definitely had some conservative components.  That said, I am willing to go down on record as being opposed to ACA.  It manages to combine the worst traits of capitalism and socialism.  IF Republicans could offer a solution which increased the supply of health care providers , created free market cost constraints by breaking the monopolistic AMA, and took insurance out of the equation for all but catastrophic coverage, their plan would have my support.  But all I'm seeing is muleheaded obstinent resistence to ANYTHING Obama proposes or implements.  They do not have vision or leadership appeal. 

Jabberwocka

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Registered: 10-17-2012
Tue, 10-15-2013 - 4:35pm

Just because a "conservative" puts forth an idea doesn't make it a conservative idea.  Forcing people to purchase something as a means of financing a spread-the-wealth-around program isn't a conservative idea.

Obamacare, from it's inception, is a failed policy and once it is revealed and the lies exposed it will be reviled.