Osama Bin Ladin is no more

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Osama Bin Ladin is no more
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Sun, 05-01-2011 - 11:09pm

And I, for one, have mixed emotions.

Jabberwocka

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Mon, 05-02-2011 - 4:31pm
I haven't heard if Muslim extremists are doubting his death. I was talking more about our own home grown extremists.
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Mon, 05-02-2011 - 5:30pm
Lacking any word but that of the U.S. military, there are going to be some who don't think OBL truly IS dead. I would like to believe that he is, that the compound in which he was living was targeted because there was overwhelming evidence that OBL and his lieutenants were holed up there, that they were killed in the course of a firefight, and that the DNA was taken from OBL in a way which is well within accepted parameters for rigorous evidence gathering.

But I don't take much on blind faith and am exceedingly reluctant to suspend critical thinking.

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Mon, 05-02-2011 - 5:31pm

Huh?

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Mon, 05-02-2011 - 5:52pm
There are some (a lot) who don't believe that Obama is a U.S. citizen. Haven't we learned anything in the past 2.5 years about trying to humor those types of folks?

I'm not taking this on "blind faith," nor have I suspended my "critical thinking."
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Mon, 05-02-2011 - 5:55pm
Sure, by "home grown extremists," I'm talking about people like the birthers, the conspiracy theorists who won't believe any kind of proof. Who cares what they think? I think we've humored them enough and need to move on.
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Mon, 05-02-2011 - 6:17pm

While there are probably some who will exploit any doubts for domestic political gain (along the lines of the birthers), my concerns are for the nation as a whole.

Given the apparent lack of independent corroboration, there is a real possibility of unconsidered and/or unintended consequences by such as the jihadists.

I devoutly hope that Obama considered this factor and has it covered in some yet unrevealed detail or verifying source.

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Mon, 05-02-2011 - 6:38pm
Considering that Obama appears to think things through thoroughly, I don't have any doubt that he's done so in this instance. As to jihadists, it's a case of damned if we do, damned if we don't. They've never needed much of an excuse, so this isn't any different.
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Mon, 05-02-2011 - 6:57pm
I wonder. Would we see things the same way if what we considered inviolate was used badly by those in the Middle East? What if our country was invaded "pre-emptively"? Would we not rise up in arms too? Would it be considered "excuse" or would it be "cause"?

OBL was infuriated by our presence in Saudi Arabia during the Gulf War. He considered us to have contaminated sacred soil.

BTW, I am playing devil's advocate. Defending him sticks in my craw but we need to consider the factors which led to his radicalization. Might at least some have been due to arrogance and economic desire to dominate?

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Mon, 05-02-2011 - 7:01pm
I definitely think that U.S. policies and actions have played a role in terrible things that have occurred to us and others in the course of history...lots of unintended consequences, and then if it is mentioned, those doing the mentioning are called traitors or told that they don't love American because America is never wrong. It's ridiculous.
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Mon, 05-02-2011 - 8:24pm

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