Pizza is a vegetable?

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Registered: 04-07-2002
Pizza is a vegetable?
Wed, 11-16-2011 - 9:09pm
Or at least the tomato sauce is? I have no trouble with our government setting standards for foods served in public schools. Kids can brown bag it too. But the GOP declaring that pizza is a vegetable? ?? LOL!



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Registered: 10-11-2005
Wed, 11-16-2011 - 9:20pm
Tomatoes are a fruit not a vegetable. Not sure why a pizza is even counted as a vegetable
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Registered: 03-18-2000
Thu, 11-17-2011 - 9:29am

Congress Says Pizza and French Fries are Vegetables!

Like many of you, when I heard this I thought it had to be a headline from The Onion. But sadly I’ve realized that there are too many agri-businesses and politicians who are willing to allow our childhood obesity episdemic to continue. They don’t care that our military is telling us that young people are too fat to fight, with only one in four meeting the fitness requirements for military service. They don’t care that one in three children under the age of 18 will develop Type II Diabetes within their lifetime. They don’t care that the rate of childhood obesity has doubled since 1980. More.......



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Registered: 04-07-2002
Thu, 11-17-2011 - 11:13am
It really is sad. And their reasoning? They don't feel that the government should tell kids what they can or cannot eat! These a school lunches - they are already telling the kids that it's okay to eat crap. Besides, for some kids - especially those who get free or subsidized lunches - this could be the ONLY healthy meal they get that day.

If parents have a problem with it, then they can pack brown bag lunches for their kids! I was really happy to hear that some of our schools had made arrangements with local farmers for fresh produce. Not only was it less expensive for the district, but the produce was fresher & tasted better.


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Registered: 03-18-2000
Thu, 11-17-2011 - 11:43am
"they are already telling the kids that it's okay to eat crap. Besides, for some kids - especially those who get free or subsidized lunches - this could be the ONLY healthy meal they get that day."
It's pretty sad.
"some of our schools had made arrangements with local farmers for fresh produce. Not only was it less expensive for the district, but the produce was fresher & tasted better."
Wish all schools would serve fresh local veggies or at least veg. even if it's frozen.



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Registered: 08-30-2002
Thu, 11-17-2011 - 11:57am

There is a local movement to provide better food for lunches in our schools. The food is "prepared" in a central kitchen and shipped out to the different schools, even though each school has a kitchen. Parents want to go back to the model of meals being prepared fesh at each school using as much local and or organic food as possible. But have basically been told they have to figure out how to pay for it themselves. I've seen the school luches in their little plastic packages. They look nasty. The fruit that is in them-mostly green oranges, mushy apples, overcooked peas. I tasted the mashed potatos. I'm not sure they really were potatos. My dd seems to end up sick the few times she gets one as a "treat." (Because she wants to be like the other kids, occasionally.) Yesterday the had Breakfast lunch. it was French Toast Sticks. Sausage Links. Caramel Applesauce. Berry Yogurt Parfait. My dd brown bagged it.

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Registered: 03-18-2000
Thu, 11-17-2011 - 12:14pm

The British chef Jamie Oliver was here in the States promoting healthy lunches & ran up against some negativity. Though some schools were receptive.
UK site...
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Registered: 02-05-2011
Mon, 11-21-2011 - 11:06am
I visited the appropriations bill in question, which is online at -

It doesn't mention pizza. The dispute seems to be about tomato paste, and how much counts as a half serving of vegetable. Worse, the dispute is about measuring the serving size by weight or volume.

Currently an eighth of a cup of tomato paste counts as a half a serving of vegetables.

The dispute is nonsensical, school lunches generally at public schools are inedible in my experience. We are arguing over how to measure tomato paste, instead of having parents sit down and eat a kids school lunch to see how awful it is.
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Registered: 04-07-2002
Mon, 11-21-2011 - 11:48am
Believe me, I know how awful school lunches can be. My DD refused to eat them starting in the third grade. She pretty much brown-bagged it all the way through high school.

Still, there's no reason why we can't work to make school lunches not only more palatable but also much healthier.


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Registered: 11-20-2011
Mon, 11-21-2011 - 1:22pm

Do you have a link or source that states the GOP is declaring pizza as a vegetable?

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Registered: 02-05-2011
Wed, 11-23-2011 - 11:14am
That's a Jon Stewart canard. He's politically astute, and very partisan. The past few weeks I was watching him shotgun all Republican candidates running to be the Republican Presidential nominee.

As an example, he keeps citing that Mr. Cain had settled sexual harassment cases. Yet Mr. Cain didn't settle any case, and the two cases that were settled where he used to work weren't filed as sexual harassment cases. They were disgruntled employee termination settlements.

To classify a disgruntled employee settlement as a sexual harassment case is of course as disingenuous as saying Republicans want to declare pizza a vegetable. However Mr. Stewart's audience is eager to hear such made up nonsense, and Mr. Stewart is very willing to purvey it.

Sadly many here get their news from the Daily Show on Comedy Central, or worse MSNBC, either of which aren't for the most part legitimate news sources.

A story you are unlikely to see covered on the Daily Show, MSNBC, or this forum is one like this -

'She's a complete gold digger': Murky past of Herman Cain accuser starts to emerge
Fiance of Sharon Bialek says he is supporting her but did not find out until Friday
Filed for bankruptcy twice
Accused former boyfriend of harassing her to pay a loan
Cain appears on Jimmy Kimmel saying he will fight the accusations
Father found out about allegations on Monday
Lived in same building as top Obama aid
Fifth woman claims he asked aid to set up dinner date with him and an attractive audience member

A 'gold digger' embroiled in legal and financial difficulties who has always lived above her station and will do anything to never have to work again.

This is the portrait that has started to emerge of the fourth woman to accuse Herman Cain of sexual harassment - the first to come out publicly.

Though her lawyer Gloria Allred painted a respectable and prestigious education and employment history for Sharon Bialek, 50, just a day later it has been revealed that she has not held a job for more than two years and has filed for bankruptcy twice.

The 50-year-old is a single mother and suburban homemaker who lives in a large five bedroom house with her fiance - who said he first heard about the 'shocking' allegations on Friday.

Mark Harwood, who has been dating the 50-year-old for several years after meeting online, said he will stand by his fiancée and believes coming out publicly was a 'gutsy' thing to do.

He said: 'It's not an anti-political thing. It's not a money thing. She's just trying to do the right thing, and that takes guts.'

A former employee of the National Restaurant Association Education Fund, Ms Bialek told a press conference in New York yesterday that when she went to Mr Cain for advice on finding a new job in July 1997, he 'put his hand on my leg under my skirt and reached for my genitals. He also grabbed my head and brought it towards his crotch'.

Herman Cain's campaign immediately released a statement saying the allegations were untrue and the embattled nominee appeared on the Jimmy Kimmel show last night saying he was going to come out fighting.

'I was listening very closely and then when it was all over with, I said, well I know what we got to do because there's not an ounce of truth in all of these accusations and my team is putting this stuff together.

'That is why I'm willing to do a press conference tomorrow to set the record straight. I'm in it to win it and I'm not going to be discouraged.'

Meanwhile, a friend of Ms Bialek, from Chicago, told the New York Post: 'She has a very infectious personality. It’s easy to see how she won [Cain] over. But the reality of her situation is -- she’s a complete gold digger. It’s all about the money.'

Adding that she was from a middle-income family but lives in a posh house while running from bill collectors, the source said: 'Most of her jobs ended in termination. It’s always the employer’s fault, not hers.

'This is a lady who lives off the system. She is hellbent on finding a way of never having to work and living the lifestyle she wants to live, a very affluent lifestyle.'

Meanwhile, a fifth woman has come out to talk about some suspect activity at the hands of Cain.

Former employee of the United States Agency for International Development Donna Donella, 40, from Arlington, said the Republican presidential candidate asked her to help arrange a dinner date for him with a female audience member following a speech he delivered nine years ago.

She told the Washington Examiner: 'After the seminar was over. Cain came over to me and a colleague and said, "Could you put me in touch with that lovely young lady who asked the question, so I can give her a more thorough answer over dinner?"'

When she declined to saying she didn't feel comfortable doing it, he then invited her to dinner. She accepted and brought two colleagues with her.

Though she said Cain exhibited no inappropriate sexual behavior during the dinner, he did order two $400 bottles of wine and left the women with the bill.

Details of a number of legal and financial difficulties belonging to Ms Bialek also emerged today, with the Chicago Tribune listing a long history with tax evasion and late or missed credit card payments.

The paper reported that Ms Bialek has filed for personal bankruptcy twice, first in 1991 and then again in 2001.

In 2001, she claimed $5,700 in assets and more than $36,000 in liabilities. Among the creditors seeking payment was a management firm demanding back rent of $4,500, four credit card companies and a lawyer asking for his legal fees.