The Pledge: Grover Norquist's hold on the GOP

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The Pledge: Grover Norquist's hold on the GOP
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Tue, 11-22-2011 - 10:40am

I find Norquist's "pledge" & the strangle hold on Republicans most disconcerting. What he is doing is fundamentally wrong in a democracy, IMO. Any thoughts?

If you didn't watch this segment 60 Minutes last Sunday....

Read or watch interview, see link.......

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-18560_162-57327816/the-pledge-grover-norquists-hold-on-the-gop/?tag=contentMain;cbsCarousel

 


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Registered: 11-20-2011
Tue, 11-22-2011 - 11:24am

Nobody is forced to sign the "pledge" are they?

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Wed, 11-23-2011 - 11:33am
Republicans who don't sign the pledge face a barrage of intimidation.

 


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Wed, 11-23-2011 - 11:53am
I don't see how anyone is forced to sign this document. If they don't all Norquist is doing is saying he'll search for a primary opponent. THAT IS DEMOCRACY. If you don't like someone's politics, you can search for someone you approve of and support them.
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No, what Norquist is practicing is a form of extortion. HE has no elected office.

I really feel sorta sorry for the Republicans and the "tea partiers". They've painted themselves into a corner and are hoping that by changing the narrative, they will convince voters to go along with a man who wants to downsize government until it's small enough to "drown in a bathtub". http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=Grover_Norquist

Many people are totally clueless about the many ways in which they benefit from government programs and policies and might, out of sheer ignorance, go along with Norquist.

But when they actually EXPERIENCE the downsizing or outright elimination of social welfare programs, environmental and consumer protections, and the elimination of a strong military (one assumes Norquist endorses the use of ad hoc militias or private mercenaries), then they would be likely to do a volte face.

Bye-bye, hard-line fiscal hawks. Bye-bye, the astroturfed "tea party" figures, and bye-bye, Grover. Don't let the door hit you in the derriere! Presumably, all their hopes are currently pinned on spending so freely with so much disinformation that they can convince voters to vote AGAINST their own self-interests, and the well-being of a once- democratic-nation which is trending downwards towards oligarchy.

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Wed, 11-23-2011 - 10:49pm

Alan Simpson, someone with strong conservative credentials, hates Norquist. IMO, he has done more to fuel the gridlock than anyone else by virtue of his moronic pledge.

I can't help but wonder what he would do if the tax rates were zero across the board. No, I do know... just as now - see to it most of the wealth in this country goes to a few and to hell with everyone else.

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Mon, 11-28-2011 - 12:29pm
Welcome back!
And ITA!!

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Sat, 12-03-2011 - 11:14am

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Sat, 12-03-2011 - 12:11pm
NARAL and NOW do similar things. Just visit nowpacs.org.

When a conservative asks if you are anti-tax to other conservatives it's extortion to almost all members of this forum. If NOW asks if you are pro-abortion, it's democracy to the same people who dislike Mr. Norquist. Personally I feel both are democracy.
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Sat, 12-03-2011 - 12:13pm
I believe Mr. Norquist is short sighted. Instead of taxing, we continue to spend more every year. A cut is declared if an expected larger than average increase isn't given to a federal program. Instead of cutting spending to match taxation, we are printing money in return for IOU's to ourself.

Once the economy starts to move money again, the inflationary consequences of all this extra cash introduced to our system are going to be catastrophic imo.

This is a problem conservatives and progressives don't deal with for the most part.
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