The Tea Fragger Party

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The Tea Fragger Party
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Sat, 07-30-2011 - 8:19am

What do these TP's hope to accomplish?

http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/the-tea-fragger-party/2011/07/29/gIQA23pAiI_story.html

Fragging: “To intentionally kill or wound (one’s superior officer, etc.), esp. with a hand grenade.”

Take names. Remember them. The behavior of certain Republicans who call themselves Tea Party conservatives makes them the most destructive posse of misguided “patriots” we’ve seen in recent memory.

If the nation defaults on its financial obligations, the blame belongs to the Tea Party Republicans who fragged their own leader, John Boehner. They had victory in their hands and couldn’t bring themselves to support his debt-ceiling plan, which, if not perfect, was more than anyone could have imagined just a few months ago. No new taxes, significant spending cuts, a temporary debt-ceiling solution with the possibility of more spending cuts down the line as well as action on their beloved balanced-budget amendment to the Constitution.

These people wouldn’t recognize a hot fudge sundae if the cherry started talking to them.

The tick-tock of the debt-ceiling debate is too long for this space, but the bottom line is that the Tea Party got too full of itself with help from certain characters whose names you’ll want to remember when things go south. They include, among others, media personalities who need no further recognition; a handful of media-created “leaders,” including Tea Party Nation founder Judson Phillips and Tea Party Patriots co-founders Jenny Beth Martin and Mark Meckler (both Phillips and Martin declared bankruptcy, yet they’re advising Tea Party Republicans on debt?); a handful of outside groups that love to hurl ad hominems such as “elite” and “inside the Beltway” when talking about people like Boehner when they are, in fact, the elite (FreedomWorks, Heritage Action, Club for Growth, National Taxpayers Union, Americans for Prosperity); and elected leaders such as Minnesota Rep. Michele Bachmann, Ohio Rep. Jim Jordan, head of the Republican Study Committee, and South Carolina Sen. Jim DeMint, who grandstand and make political assertions and promises that are sheer fantasy.

Meanwhile, freshman House members were targeted and pressured by some of the aforementioned groups to vote against Boehner’s plan. South Carolina’s contingent was so troubled that members repaired to the chapel Thursday to pray and emerged promising to vote no. Why? Not because Jesus told them to but because they’re scared to death that DeMint will “primary” them — find someone in their own party to challenge them.

Where did they get an idea like that? Look no further than Sarah Palin’s Facebook page, where she warned freshmen about contested primaries and urged them to “remember us ‘little people’ who believed in them, donated to their campaigns, spent hours tirelessly volunteering for them, and trusted them with our votes.” Her close: “P.S. Everyone I talk to still believes in contested primaries.” While they’re at it, they also should remember that Palin came to the Tea Party long after the invitations went out. The woman knows where to hitch a wagon.

Unfortunately for the country, which is poised to lose its place as the world’s most-trusted treasury and suffer economic repercussions we can ill afford, the stakes in this political game are too high to be in the hands of Tea Partyers who mistakenly think they have a mandate. Their sweep in the 2010 election was the exclusive result of anti-Obama sentiment and the sense that the president, in creating a health-care plan instead of focusing on jobs, had overplayed his hand. Invariably, as political pendulums swing, the victors become the very thing they sought to defeat.

Who’s overplaying their hand now?

It must be said that the Tea Party has not been monolithic — and the true grass-roots shouldn’t be conflated with leaders who disastrously signed on to the so-called “Cut, Cap and Balance” pledge. What is it with Republicans and their silly pledges? Didn’t they get enough Scouting? This pledge now has them hog-tied to a promise they can’t keep — the balanced-budget amendment. As many as a third desperately want a pardon from that commitment, according to sources close to the action.

Hubris is no one’s friend, and irony is a nag. The Tea Partyers who wanted to oust Barack Obama have greatly enhanced his chances for reelection by undermining their own leader and damaging the country in the process. The debt ceiling may have been raised and the crisis averted by the time this column appears, but that event should not erase the memory of what transpired. The Tea Party was a movement that changed the conversation in Washington, but it has steeped too long and has become toxic.

It’s time to toss it out.

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In both debt plans, the wealthy win.....

http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/the-debt-ceiling-clock/2011/07/28/gIQAqxDxfI_video.html

 


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Sun, 07-31-2011 - 1:42pm
Both sides of the aisle have failed. As for our President, he's making 'enemies' in his own party in order to try to reach a compromise.

I can't say exactly what I would compromise on because I'd need to go through the plan point by point & I'm just following the 'overall'. President Obama came into office with a huge debt because of the spending & tax cut follies of the former administration.

I can say that I would cut many 'pork' projects - even some that might help the area of the country where I live. I'd also do away with the huge tax cuts given to businesses & the wealthy. And I'd make d@mn sure that American corps were paying their taxes! I understand that sacrifices must be made in order to reach a compromise.

However, it looks like Congress may reach some kind of compromise after all.

 nwtreehugger  

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Sun, 07-31-2011 - 1:46pm
LOL! Love the poem!!

I know, I don't get it either. I found no 'doozies' in either of those quotes. But then, I'm neither Democrat nor Republican. What's wrong with wanting to deal with the isues now? What's wrong with demanding that Congress do what has to be done no matter how unpleasant it is?

 nwtreehugger  

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Sun, 07-31-2011 - 1:56pm
i haven't always agreed with him either, but I have always understood that any concessions he made were in order to achieve compromise. The only way our country is going to survive is by learning how to come to a consensus.

 nwtreehugger  

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Registered: 03-03-2009
Sun, 07-31-2011 - 6:15pm
Maybe they're "doozie" comparing Obama to Obama. Perhaps when you have a president who generally is thoughtful and well-spoken, finding something noteworthy entails a certain re-defining of "doozie".

Peas--ugh. My mother's idea of peas was the canned stuff, heated up. Terrible. Years later, my father planted some peas. The freshly harvested vegetable, uncooked, was a revelation. Crisp, sweet, bright green goodness. Obama should try them that way!

Jabberwocka

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Registered: 06-07-2011
Mon, 08-01-2011 - 12:16am

((I'd also do away with the huge tax cuts given to businesses & the wealthy.))

I'm not sure about businesses, but the wealthy have not had any "huge tax cuts".

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Registered: 04-07-2002
Mon, 08-01-2011 - 12:18pm
I'm talking about companies that offshore in order to keep from paying the taxes they owe.

 nwtreehugger  

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Mon, 08-01-2011 - 3:58pm
Bush tax cuts were to the wealthy. More at: http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2004/08/16/politics/main636398.shtml

Jabberwocka

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Registered: 11-27-2009
Mon, 08-01-2011 - 8:53pm
Sorry about the link. I clearly wasn't paying attention to my tab. Here's the proper link:
http://www.theodoresworld.net/archives/2011/07/obama_pull_off_the_band_aid_ea.html
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Mon, 08-01-2011 - 9:08pm
Michele Bachmann apparently didn't like his comment. Not surprising that she would attempt to make a mountain of a molehill. On Fox News. With Bill O'Reilly. Color me unimpressed!

Jabberwocka

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Tue, 08-02-2011 - 9:19am
"I must be missing something. Obama wants to tackle the debt ceiling for a longer period than six months (though I grant you that he certainly has a vested interest in achieving some sort of resolution before 2012 elections); and he pointed out that people would rather talk about sports (which seems to be the case too darn often). Huh? Those are noteworthy (as "doozies"), how/why?

Nice spin. Maybe your fine with leaving the debt ceiling issue to "paid politicians", and going on with worrying about the NFL and the lockout. However, I was not paying any attention to the NFL lockout this summer and I was paying a lot of attention to the economy, the debt ceiling issue that was not dealt with until it was in "crisis" mode (gotta love Obama's excuse on leaving that until the last minute), and the debt issue in the US.

You conveniently skipped Obama's comment about "creating new programs"
I'm still amazed how that one got by, except that the knowledge that Obama wants to paint himself a moderate when he is not, and his comment exposed him. The media is happy to comply. Just like his bull about not caring about a second term. Everything, including this "crisis" has been done with a second term in mind and how he can best use it to his advantage.
All the politicians in this debate had the next election cycle in mind.

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