The truth comes out

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The truth comes out
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Wed, 08-17-2011 - 10:12am

Finally, the President acknowledges the depth of time it took to create the economic conditions we now find ourselves in.

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iVillage Member
Registered: 05-03-2011
Wed, 08-17-2011 - 10:39am
When has he ever said differently? I'm not seeing anything new in this article.
iVillage Member
Registered: 11-27-2009
Wed, 08-17-2011 - 10:51am
Really? You've missed him blaming the economy on Bush? On the Tea Party? On the GOP in Congress? On the Japan Tsunami?
He's blamed everyone for the current state of our economy, of course with the exception of himself.
So, in hindsight, your right, it is no different, he is blameless for his actions or inaction's since becoming President and while in the US Senate. The difference now is that he acknowledges that the events that began to create the current problem started "decades ago" not with Bush policies or Republican policies. It's simply nice to see a Democrat acknowledge that, even if that's as far as they will take it. It's a step in the right direction to fixing the problems and ultimately correcting the direction of the US economy. We will see if he can do that.

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Registered: 03-18-2000
Wed, 08-17-2011 - 11:29am
"I'm not seeing anything new in this article."

Me neither.

>"...Speaker Boehner and folks in his caucus couldn’t say yes to that tells me that they are more interested in politics than they are in solving the problems""<

This is so very obvious.

 


Photobucket&nbs

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Registered: 05-03-2011
Wed, 08-17-2011 - 11:32am
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I've heard him explain that all of the above are part of the problems with the economy, not that each individually were the sole cause of the problems we are having right now, and he is correct...there are numerous causes, not just one thing.

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Really? You think that Obama is the cause of our economic problems? Interesting.

iVillage Member
Registered: 03-18-2000
Wed, 08-17-2011 - 11:43am
"blaming the economy on Bush"

I've lost count of the times this has been posted on the board. This is not a divine revelation. Enough already!

 


Photobucket&nbs

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Registered: 11-27-2009
Wed, 08-17-2011 - 12:28pm
Where did you ever get the idea that I think Obama caused our economic problems?
The appropriate question would be "Do you really think Obama should take responsibility for the actions or lack of actions as President regarding our economic problems? The answer would be yes. I also believe that if he voted on fiscal policy while in the Senate, or on any legislation that affected the fiscal enviornment of the US he should be willing to take responsibility for that. Not a difficult concept, and nothing close to the suggestion that I think he is responsible for the economic conditions of the US.
I've said it over and over, the cause of our problems are not a simplistic, one event, one person or group issue. Our current economic conditions were caused by many events, many fiscal policy positions. It was Democrats and Republicans that placed this situation at our feet. Bush's policies didn't prevent the slide from continuing, Obama's policies have not impacted the situation one little bit.
Could it have been worse without them? Sure. The same could be said about Bush's policies when he had to address the developing recession that presented itself at the beginning of his first term. We could ask if that recession would have been worse without his intervention? Could the 2008 recession been prevented or lessened with further action? (Without addressing the looming housing bubble I don't know that any policies could have been that effective). Did some of Bush's following policies make things worse, ie. jumping on the band wagon of 'everyone should own a house', and his spending spree? I don't know that answer, but I don't think those policies helped.

Obama is the President, he has ownership of the current situation. If someone wants to isolate that apart from the entire economic picture and find blame... I'm sure they can find stats that will show Obama's policies ineffectual and possibly hurting recovering- I'm sure others could show that his policies were benign. I'm not trying to blame Obama for the economy. Honestly, I never thought he was going to fix it as he claimed he could, there were too many forces, too many factors that extended back in time too long for there to be a quick fix of this economy. I don't think he has approached it well; rapid expansion of spending was not helpful. Instead of focusing on the economy he did a quick fix that didn't and then switched over to liberal ideology policy. Cap and Trade, Health Care, threatening tax increases for millionaires making $200,000 a yr (bad math there).
When Obama is citing his "enemies", and acts of God for the current economy he could at least be honest enough to include his part.
iVillage Member
Registered: 11-27-2009
Wed, 08-17-2011 - 12:35pm
Why do you want to censor me and others? Do you just not like what you are hearing? The criticism of Obama blaming Bush is not one you'll even only hear coming from conservatives. People are tiring of him doing it. It is making him appear to be anything but a leader. That said, as long as he keeps blaming everyone else and ignores that 1. He was a part of the US Senate that developed and passed policy that had fiscal impact while Bush was in office, and 2. He has been President for over 2 1/2 years and he has had fiscal policy implemented during his administration, I will continue to note his lack of leadership, ie. taking responsibility.
(for those that want to continue to insist that taking responsibility equals taking blame for the economy, it's not, it's about looking at what he has done, and what effect it has had. It's about looking at new approaches instead of pulling out the same old campaign speech lines)
iVillage Member
Registered: 03-18-2000
Wed, 08-17-2011 - 1:19pm
"Why do you want to censor me and others?"

I don't wish to censor you, or anyone else, but it gets tiresome to read the same point time & time again in several threads.

 


Photobucket&nbs

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Registered: 11-27-2009
Wed, 08-17-2011 - 1:56pm
I do understand from the pov that I get tired of Obama saying it, but oh well, as long as he is going to hang his hat on blaming Bush I'm going to notice it and comment on it.
iVillage Member
Registered: 05-03-2011
Wed, 08-17-2011 - 3:33pm
Do you have some actual quotes where Obama is blaming Bush?

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