Coburn Criticizes Senate for Blocking Proposal to Cut $39G Cost Per Student on Military Bases Read

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Coburn Criticizes Senate for Blocking Proposal to Cut $39G Cost Per Student on Military Bases Read
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Wed, 11-30-2011 - 3:06pm

Kind of disturbing that Harry Reid is being so difficult and not interested saving the tax payers money but then getting on his soapbox how the republicans don't have any ideas.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2011/11/30/coburn-claims-senate-blocking-proposal-to-cut-51k-cost-per-student-on-military/

U.S. Senate - POLITICS Coburn Criticizes Senate for Blocking Proposal to Cut $39G Cost Per Student on Military Bases

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How is the Pentagon spending $51,000 per student, but the schools are falling apart? I don't get that part.
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iluvkrat wrote:

"How is the Pentagon spending $51,000 per student, but the schools are falling apart? I don't get that part."

The schools are old, very old.

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What I don't understand is why the military itself doesn't just close the schools and let the kids attend neighboring schools, the way it is done in my state. Why does this require an act of Congress?
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iluvkrat wrote:

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I don't think that's the bigger question at all. I don't blame Reid or any other leader for limiting the number of amendments. It gets ridiculous. My question is certainly a valid one and I'd be interested in why the military doesn't just shut the schools down as being too dangerous and sending those kids to the public schools just as it is done in the majority of areas with military bases. I wonder if this amendment is really needed or if it is just posturing.
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iluvkrat wrote:

"I don't blame Reid or any other leader for limiting the number of amendments."

I do.

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I should have read the OP more carefully:

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"It's something we may come back to," he said.

The current cost cited by Coburn's office is not what the Defense Department's education office estimates. Figures provided by the office show the per-pupil cost at between $14,712 and $16,260, depending on the grade.

According to Coburn's office, 26,000 students are taught on the Pentagon-run bases. Dozens of other on-base schools are run by local school districts. >>

It looks like Coburn isn't being truthful about the dollar amount being spent per pupil and that it is, in fact, much less than the $51,000 figure he is throwing around. On top of that, if this is so incredibly important to him, then why is his spokesman saying he "may" still pursue it even if he can't tack it to the defense bill. That smacks of game playing to me. It's either important enough to figure out a different way to get it to a vote or it's just something being used to make the other side look bad.
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Sounds like lack of funds for capital improvement, rather than for operations:

"But families who live on military installations -- either for economic, career or security reasons -- send their children to one of 194 base schools operated by the Pentagon around the world, or 160 base schools in the U.S. operated by local school districts.

Rooney's sober assessment deals with those base schools operated by local districts, which are attended by about 150,000 students . Funding fixes for these schools is especially complex. For one thing, the Pentagon can't use its own funds for civilian schools on military bases and must obtain a special congressional appropriation. These schools are also required to cover 20 percent of the repair bill themselves. But school districts also frequently have trouble raising money for construction work on base schools through new local taxes or bonds because military families often don't vote or pay taxes in their communities. If districts cannot meet the 20 percent requirement, the Pentagon will sometimes step in to help. If that happens, though, fewer schools on the list will get funding for repairs this year."

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/the-center-for-public-integrity/pentagon-lacks-funding-to_b_973563.html

Not sure where the high cost per on-base student comes from.

With local and state tax revenues down, those governments probably can't come up with the required 20% they'd need to contribute.

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There's something VERY squirrely about the article from the OP.

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Coburn's proposal is disingenuous and his statistics don't paint the whole picture.

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