Democratic Pollsters: Obama Should Abandon Run for Second Term

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Registered: 11-20-2011
Democratic Pollsters: Obama Should Abandon Run for Second Term
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Mon, 11-21-2011 - 11:59am

Wow...even some Democrats realize that Obama is a complete failure and is hurting the country.


http://news.yahoo.com/democratic-pollsters-obama-abandon-run-second-term-200022215.html

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Registered: 11-20-2011

iluvkrat wrote:

"Here's the conversation again:


Me: "Caddell hasn't been a Democrat for a very long time...since the late 1980s."

You: "I think that being a Democrat for close to 30 years is a pretty long time, don't you?"

Using your own logic, (If somebody is a democrat for 50 years then changes their way of thinking and becomes a republican....then they are a republican...and visa versa.), Caddell isn't a Democrat."
Do you have a point to all this nit picking?
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Registered: 11-20-2011

iluvkrat wrote:

"Nope, there weren't opinions in that link. There were facts, so it's not surprising that you couldn't refute them."

LOL...okay if you say so.

Oh...and enough with the personal attacks already.

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Registered: 05-03-2011
Yes. You were trying to tell the board that Caddell was a Democrat (misleading OP perhaps?) and I was pointing out that he isn't. You then tried to tell me that he was a Democrat for 30 years so that must mean something. I pointed out that he wasn't a Democrat for 30 years, rather about 20 years, but nevertheless he hasn't been a Democrat for 23 years or so. I also pointed out that Reagan used to be a Democrat, but no one would certainly call him in a Democrat since he left the Democratic Party. In the end, it appears to me that you got the point and agreed with me, but instead of just saying so, you decided to say "who cares" as a way of deflecting. I don't know why you would do that, but there it is in a nutshell.
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If you can refute the facts that I posted, please do so.
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Registered: 11-20-2011

Oh my...how things get twisted and go off on tangents here.

I thought you said that Caddell hasn't been a democrat for a while....since the late 80's.

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Registered: 05-03-2011

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Yes, that's what I said.

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I'm not sure how you arrived at that conclusion based on what I said.

<< I miscalculated the time i THOUGHT he was a dem. (close to 30 years). >>

Okay.

<< I did not realize that he was a democrat initially then changed to something else in the 80's (is he a republican? I don't know) That being said, the article didn't call him a democrat...I believe they said a "one-time democratic pollster". Not the same thing as calling him a democrat.>>

I never said that the article said he was a Democrat. You said he was a Democrat which is why I corrected that misconception in the first place.

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Yes, that is what I was saying/that's okay.

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I didn't realize being matter-of-fact was considered "aggressive."

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You are correct and I apologize. I will just continue to post matter-of-factly without extraneous comments added on.

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Registered: 09-30-2011

Obviously.

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Registered: 10-25-2006

Haha....they write as "patriots and Democrats"....think they meant to say "hypocrites".

He also denounced Democrats in the House who voted against the Palm Sunday Compromise, which sought to reinstate Terri Schiavo's feeding tube, as "cold blooded,"[citation needed] and called environmentalism "a conspiracy 'to basically deconstruct capitalism.'"[1] Caddell is a regular guest on Fox News Channel, listed as a Fox News Contributor. This has earned him the label of "Fox News Democrat."[1]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Patrick_Caddell

Yeah....a real Democrat, sheesh!

They may be right that Obama will have to run a negative campaign, but in his next term with dems taking both the House and Senate, he will be perfectly able to govern.

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DQTBYQlQ7yM

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Registered: 11-20-2011

janetlz wrote:

"They may be right that Obama will have to run a negative campaign,..."

Well, he certainly can't run on his record, now can he?

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Registered: 10-25-2006

<<"They may be right that Obama will have to run a negative campaign,..."

Well, he certainly can't run on his record, now can he?>>

Actually, I was thinking more about the falsehoods being spread about Obama by all the GOP primary candidates during their campaigns thus far.

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DQTBYQlQ7yM