Government Controlled & Financed Medicine - Doesn't Work

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Fri, 05-20-2011 - 7:10pm
NHS budget squeeze to blame for longer waiting times, say doctors

Latest performance data reveal number of English patients waiting more than 18 weeks has risen by 26% in last year

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Registered: 05-03-2011
I can't remember if you said before or not, but does your mom live with you?
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Registered: 10-25-2006

No, my mom is in an assisted living apartment, in WI.

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http://www.pnhp.org/news/2009/october/meet_the_new_health_.php

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DQTBYQlQ7yM

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Registered: 05-03-2011
Thanks for sharing. I took care of my grandmother in her final years...actually brought a house without stairs so she could move in with us, LOL, but she was the only person in the whole entire world that I never once got mad at or had a fight with, so that made it an easy choice. She was also extremely lucid up until the time she became unconscious the day before she died, so being her POA was easy as well.

I can't imagine how difficult it is being in another state and trying to deal with what you are dealing with. It sounds like your mom is in a good facility.

I learned something with this thread about DNRs...I hadn't realized it only really counted in the hospital or when a doctor determines someone is terminal. When my aunt went home on hospice, her physician filled out a yellow DNR that needed to be taped on the refrigerator so EMTs would know (if they were called) not to resuscitate. Makes sense now after what I just learned. I agree with you that there comes a time, even if a person isn't "terminal" according to the definition that an elderly person can choose DNR and it should be abided by.
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The problem with rationing is who will make the decisions about what will be rationed and on what basis.

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Registered: 10-25-2006

Your grandmother must have really appreciated your taking her into your home.

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http://www.pnhp.org/news/2009/october/meet_the_new_health_.php

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DQTBYQlQ7yM

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Registered: 10-25-2006

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http://www.pnhp.org/news/2009/october/meet_the_new_health_.php

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DQTBYQlQ7yM

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Registered: 05-03-2011

I've got nothing to add to your post...you said it all very well.

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Registered: 03-03-2009
Oh, for crying out loud. The "rationing" characterization is about fear mongering.

Let's call our health care system what it is--supply and demand. The AMA has managed to restrict supply, demand has increased with lifestyle-associated diseases coupled with a greater longevity for many others (also attributable to much more aggressive medical interventions).

Rather than focus on the demand side, maybe it's time to look at taking measures which would have the net impact of increasing supply (and making the question of who gets care less fraught with tough choices).






Jabberwocka

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If the AMA, in fact, has been restricting demand,

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http://www.pnhp.org/news/2009/october/meet_the_new_health_.php

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DQTBYQlQ7yM

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Registered: 03-03-2009
I posted a piece by Milton Friedman in response to another poster. Friedman certainly thought the AMA was a culprit in restricting the supply of licensed medical health providers: http://www.fff.org/freedom/0194e.asp

My DD was born at home because I was less than thrilled about the hospital birthing experience with DS. Finding a CNM (certified nurse midwife) who was willing to act as my guide and counselor was rough. In Missouri, the AMA had conducted a witch hunt against both lay and certified midwives. They claimed that helping a woman to give birth (which in many cases is a normal and natural phenomenon) was "practicing medicine" and only licensed medical doctors could do that. After she assisted at DD's birth, my CNM moved to Florida because she was so tired of the hounding in Missouri, both of Planned Parenthood and midwives.

IMHO, there's far too little discussion about the "supply" aspect of our medical care system. Here in New Mexico, UNM's nursing program has set quotas for admission--though I'm still a little hazy on the "why" of that decision.

Jabberwocka

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