MERRY CHRISTMAS, libs

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MERRY CHRISTMAS, libs
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Tue, 12-21-2010 - 1:39am
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Tue, 12-21-2010 - 8:33am
Again...see my comments earlier in this thread. The students at the school can see Santa at the mall, or the department store, or (as in my neighborhood) at the fire department hall. While I love Santa as he's been good to me, I also realize that Santa is a commercialization of a Christmas tradition to encourage gift giving (which I also love). I am not offended that the public schools have chosen to not have a representation of the commercialization of an otherwise-religious holiday. Why don't these offended parents take their children to their respective Christian churches to see Santa? Oh....I know...because Santa is a representation of the commercialization, and Christian churches are about Jesus on Christmas.
Sopal
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Tue, 12-21-2010 - 3:41pm
(Oh....I know...because Santa is a representation of the commercialization, )

No Santa is not. You might want to find the historical significance of St. Nicholas and giving.

(I am not offended that the public schools have chosen to not have a representation of the commercialization of an otherwise-religious holiday. )

However, they have also chosen to remove Jesus from Christmas and well....basically Christmas. We are not allowed to have a Christmas tree....it must be a "Holiday tree" and include ornaments from all religions. We cannot sing Christmas songs....but can only sing winter songs.

However, the schools never seem to have a problem with celebrating Hanukkah and learning all about the significance of the Menorah.

I think, to be completely fair...since the Christmas tree is now the "Holiday Tree"....the Menorah should be referred to as the "Holiday Candelabra".

Because really, it's the only way to be completely politically correct.
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Tue, 12-21-2010 - 10:45pm

Sopal
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Tue, 12-21-2010 - 10:51pm
It sounds to me that a serious chip is resting upon the shoulder of some Christians who completely miss the point. Christmas is everywhere - including schools. The commercialization is everywhere. Perhaps a reflection on the meaning of peace on earth and good will toward men would show some Christians that their frustration and anger about this seems pretty un-Christian.
Sopal
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Registered: 11-11-2010
Wed, 12-22-2010 - 2:14am
(Perhaps a reflection on the meaning of peace on earth and good will toward men would show some Christians that their frustration and anger about this seems pretty un-Christian.)

Wow...really? So protecting the sanctity of one' s religious holiday is now considered a "major chip on one's shoulder" or that one is "un-Christian like" because they are upset about the schools not allowing their religious holiday celebrated but all other religious holidays are celebrated without fear of offending others?

Nice spin job if I do say so myself!
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Wed, 12-22-2010 - 10:53am

If one doesn't like what the school is doing, CHANGE schools.

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Registered: 11-11-2010
Wed, 12-22-2010 - 12:20pm
( For the umpteenth time. This is nothing new. )

You're right, it's not. However, it still doesn't mean that it's right. Just because it's been going on for a long time doesn't mean that I have to just take it. It has nothing to do with the school, but with society in general. The attitude today (which is clearly evident by the posts on this thread) is that it's completely okay to make Christmas sound like a dirty word and we shouldn't say it because it might offend a Jewish person, but we can say "happy hanukkah" all day long. We can have our kids learn about the jewish holiday of Hanukkah but not about Christmas.

There is really no point in going on about this.....clearly there are some liberals that are angry that the Christians want to take back Christmas.
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Registered: 09-24-2004
Wed, 12-22-2010 - 2:44pm
Some Christians are complaining that other people don't share their desire to have Christian Christmas carols sung in the schools. Instead of being joyful about the holiday, they complain that other people aren't behaving they way they wish. It is the annual war on Christmas, so some Christians choose to look at their cup of eggnog as half-full. Eventually, Christians will stop the war on Christmas and start enjoying the holiday. For now? Well, the chip is on some of their shoulders making them miserable.
Sopal
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Registered: 11-11-2010
Wed, 12-22-2010 - 5:10pm
(Some Christians are complaining that other people don't share their desire to have Christian Christmas carols sung in the schools. Instead of being joyful about the holiday,...)

Again, you are incorrect. It isn't that Christians want others to share their desire to have Christmas carols sung....it's more that Christmas carols are forbidden but Hanukkah songs are sung.

Christians are tired of having to say 'holiday tree" for fear of offending somebody if they say "Christmas". How come Jews are not afraid of offending somebody when they say "Menorah"?
I'll tell you....because that would be silly! However, many liberals feel that it is offensive to even say the word "Christmas" these days.

That is the REAL shame of all of this!

It has become to many liberals that Christianity is the punching bag religion....and they feel free to mock and riducule Christians....but sing the praises of Muslims who to this day are STILL killing Chrisitans and forbidding them to practice their religion.

Instead....the story line is twisted so badly that some liberals are saying we Christians must be thankful that WE are not being killed in this country.....so we should just stop complaining that the schools forbid all things Christmas but freely celebrate Hanukkah. And now it is WE who have a chip on our shoulder. Wow...just wow!

How sad that these liberals cannot see the hypocrisy of their intolerance.

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