Obama's Speech

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Registered: 10-01-2004
Obama's Speech
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Thu, 09-08-2011 - 8:01pm

Long on rhetoric. . .short on specifics

Second verse, same as the first:

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Registered: 10-25-2006
Mon, 10-17-2011 - 3:41pm

If you earn $1 million annually, I'd say $500,000 is more than enough to cover your other insurance, health care and other expenses.

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http://www.pnhp.org/news/2009/october/meet_the_new_health_.php

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DQTBYQlQ7yM

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Registered: 10-01-2004
Mon, 10-17-2011 - 11:13pm

If your family pays 28% in federal taxes and you take the time to add in the other taxes you pay (state,

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Registered: 10-25-2006
Tue, 10-18-2011 - 8:42am

We don't pay 28% in federal tax; we are in the the 28% tax bracket.

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http://www.pnhp.org/news/2009/october/meet_the_new_health_.php

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DQTBYQlQ7yM

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Registered: 04-04-2001
Wed, 10-19-2011 - 4:32pm

Please feel free to send the extra $$$ you are able and want to pay to the IRS to

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Registered: 10-25-2006
Fri, 10-21-2011 - 8:00am

Well, I think we need to use those dollars to help our employed, but dissatisfied, DS become an entrepreneur, like all the RICH folks do.

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http://www.pnhp.org/news/2009/october/meet_the_new_health_.php

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DQTBYQlQ7yM

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Registered: 04-04-2001
Fri, 10-21-2011 - 11:51am

Small business owners are entrpreneurs; most are not rich.

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Registered: 03-03-2009
Sat, 10-22-2011 - 5:11am
I doubt very much that all the OWS people are "ill-informed kids and professional radicals". The current trend is to paint the movement that way, presumably to cover up the fact that there are valid concerns about the way some corporations have behaved in this country.

My husband started his own company twenty years ago. We were frugal too. He works hard, I work hard. We pay our taxes, watch our money, wonder about the future. There are no guarantees of continued success.

The repeated theme of prosperity if there was no governmental regulation, taxing, spending, whatever, is a sham. Let me repeat that. It's bogus and more than a little illogical coming from people who proclaim their belief in personal responsibility.

Laissez-faire capitalism is carte blanche for the most powerful and rich to do ANYTHING which furthers their goals. Selling that crud as an economic or governmental model has been the ongoing mission of the GOP for years. Ideologues too steeped in political dogma, cynics with a self-serving motive behind their support, and poorly informed knee-jerk reactionaries have bought into the garbage. All have failed to ask WHO will benefit. WHAT the environmental cost would be. And last but not least, when the middle class has been strangled out of existence and there are only the very rich and the very poor, what this nation will look like when the corporations move on to greener pastures and less devastated countries.

Jabberwocka

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Registered: 10-01-2004
Sun, 10-23-2011 - 3:10pm

I certainly agree that government regulation is required where the acts of one person or entity impinge on the rights and freedom of others.

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Registered: 03-03-2009
Sun, 10-23-2011 - 6:10pm
I agree with much of what you say, though McDonald's revamped Happy Meal choices strike me as being a step towards giving people more choices rather than being some sort of mandate from government (there was also handwringing when nutritional information was required as part of food product labeling).

Many people are angry about what they perceive as unfair gain from certain powerful corporations (not all). They see the safety net of programs like social security and Medicare under attack from the "tea party" politicians and wonder how on earth to survive a double whammy. They fear a future in which medical care is increasingly expensive; in which jobs are scarce and do not pay enough to live on, even frugally.

OWS may have started out as "a bunch of inexperienced kids and radicals who love them" but unless you are willing to label ANYBODY who agrees with at least part of the OWS stance as either inexperienced or radical, it's moved beyond those adjectives.

That "meaningful change" might come when politicians and/or leaders realize that there is power in OWS numbers and the venting turns into demanding substantial changes.

Business as usual isn't going to work.

Jabberwocka

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Registered: 10-25-2006
Mon, 10-24-2011 - 7:32am

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Thanks for the recommendation.

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http://www.pnhp.org/news/2009/october/meet_the_new_health_.php

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DQTBYQlQ7yM