Ohio's un-employment rate

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Ohio's un-employment rate
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Mon, 10-29-2012 - 8:46am

 Our un-employment rate has dropped to 6%.    5.7 % in Central Ohio.   Kasich, our Governor, doesn't want anyone to know this as it will help Obama.    Obama saved the auto industry and jobs here are spreading.     Former Governor Strickland was responsible for a new plant -research center - test track-race track being build about 20 miles away.    Bringing about 500 jobs here.   

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Registered: 10-17-2012
Mon, 10-29-2012 - 5:24pm

Actually, Kasich doesn't want to over-advertise the unemployment numbers because he knows that Obama will lie and claim that the economic improvement in Ohio is due to something he did, rather than the reality that it's directly the result of the conservative policies Kasich put in place since being elected.

As for Obama saving the auto industry...no, not at all.  Obama outsourced the sale of Chrysler...to an Italian company...who outsourced American jobs building Jeeps to China.  He propped up GM with billions of taxpayer dollars to provide political payoffs to his cronies in the UAW while whiping out the pensions of non-union Delphi workers.  If GM had followed Romney's suggestion of a structured bankruptcy, the company would have come out leaner and meaner and ready to compete.  Instead, because of Obama, they are still burdened with oppressive debt and were forced to build cars to suit Obama's green agenda that have failed technologically and that no one wants to buy, further damaging the GM brand and it's overall productivity.

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Registered: 03-30-2007
Mon, 10-29-2012 - 5:34pm

Wow!!!  What a lie!!  Faux News needs to get their facts straight.   Jeep isn't going anywhere.   The CEO was on the local news last night, blasting this lie.   Obama saved Thousnads of jobs in Ohio.  Kasich had nothing to do with it.  If he had, then wouldn't he be screaming it from the roof tops?     Nice try, but the jobs are spreading here.  I expect next months numbers will be even better.  

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Registered: 10-17-2012
Tue, 10-30-2012 - 1:38am

Actually, Chrysler is considering having the Jeeps built for the China market actually built in China instead of America, where they're built today.  No matter how you look at it, it amounts to outsourcing American jobs to China.

And what did Obama do that saved those "thousands of jobs" in Ohio?  If you're referring to the bail out, you're mistaken.  Those jobs would have been saved through a structured bankruptcy, as Romney suggested...which is also what Obama eventually did...after he paid off his union cronies with ownership rights in GM and destroyed the pensions of the Delphi workers.  And unlike Romney's plan, which would have created a healthy company, Obama brought GM out of bankruptcy too quick, which left the company unstable, saddled with debilitating debt and forced to build a line of "green" cars that were crap and no one wanted, even with HUGE government rebates...ALL of which damaged GM and it's brand.

But you're right, Kasich had nothing to do with the bail out...and please remember that when GM files for bankruptcy again.  Even if you want to disregard reality and claim that Obama "saved" the GM jobs, that does not account for any lowering of the unemployment numbers, it only would have maintained the high status quo.  It's not a coincidence that the economy started improving AFTER Kasich was elected and began implimenting his pro-growth policies.  The same has been true of almost every other Republican run state that has enacted conservative policies.  Those with the worst numbers are, not coincidentally, run by Democrats.  If the numbers are better next month, send Gov. Kasich some flowers as a thank you.

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Registered: 03-30-2007
Tue, 10-30-2012 - 11:38am

Some people wouldn't recognise the truth if it bit them in the rear.     Taft (REpublican) Darn near destroyed Ohio.   We were bleeding jobs.  Taft and Boehner held the door open while jobs fled our state.  Un-employmeny was over 12%.   Strickland came in and cleaned up a lot of the mess, help create new jobs that are now built and hiring.  

If someone wants to beleive what "Rush Baby" and fox spews, that's there choice.   I prefer the truth.   But then look at the pathological liar they want to become president.    Ohio will thank our President Obama by giving him a win. 

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Registered: 03-30-2007
Tue, 10-30-2012 - 12:31pm

Forgot to add:   Romney wasn't  President when the auto bail-out took place.  Obama was.   Thank God.

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Registered: 10-17-2012
Wed, 10-31-2012 - 12:54am

How did Taft "darn near destroy Ohio?"  And how were Boehner and Taft "holding the door open while jobs fled the state?"  And please be specific, if you don't mind.

iVillage Member
Registered: 03-30-2007
Wed, 10-31-2012 - 8:48am

Taft's croonies were sent to prison for there part in "CoinGate".   Taft did nothing to help employment here.  He was to busy receiving Free Golf outings to be bothered.   We had well over 100,000 businesses leave Ohio.  We had residents leaving.   Boehner had a big shipping plant in his district.  He did nothing to stop them from leaving.   Taft was ranked 49th as the worst Governor.   Oh, Romney was ranked 48th.

Strickland came into office and gave businesses tax breaks.  There is an industrial area about 3-4 miles from me.   Strickland gave them incentive to build more factories here.    There are now a total of 10 factories there.   4 just opened this month.   They are hiring.   We've had a failing housing market.   It started coming back in 2009.   People are starting to build again.  

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Registered: 03-03-2009
Wed, 10-31-2012 - 11:05am

Actually, the first money was given to the auto industry while Bush was still president:: 

Republicans continue to blast President Obama for that auto bailout three years ago. Mitt Romney says he would have -- as he argued back in 2008 when the issue was being debated -- let the automakers go through a structured bankruptcy: sell off some stuff, downsize and so forth.

But former President George W. Bush, most annoyingly, keeps coming to Obama’s defense, saying the bailout was essential to stave off complete disaster.

He defended the move in his memoir and he popped up again last week at the Las Vegas convention of the National Automobile Dealers Association, saying he would “do it again.”

“I didn’t want there to be 21 percent unemployment,” Bush told the 22,000 attendees. “Sometimes circumstances get in the way of philosophy.”

“I said, ‘No depression.’”

In his memoir he said the move was “the only option” to avert immediate bankruptcy of Chrysler and GM and the loss of a million jobs and $150 billion in tax revenues.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/in-the-loop/post/george-w-bush-auto-bailout-was-mine/2012/02/13/gIQA6oDPBR_blog.html

Jabberwocka

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Wed, 10-31-2012 - 11:56am

Sorry but the statement that ".. Chrysler is considering having the Jeeps built for the China market actually built in China instead of America, where they're built today.  No matter how you look at it, it amounts to outsourcing American jobs to China" appears to be wrong.  See:  http://www.csmonitor.com/Business/Latest-News-Wires/2012/1031/Jeep-not-moving-to-China-Mr.-Romney

As for the claim that " Those jobs would have been saved through a structured bankruptcy, as Romney suggested", to put it trenchantly, you had better decide.  Did Obama force GM into structured bankruptcy?  If so, then Obama saved the jobs.  Can't excoriate Obama for doing what your candidate said he'd do! 

Regarding Obama and bankruptcies, there's an interesting piece from the Washington Examiner:

....to recap:

  • Romney called for bankruptcy, and Obama delivered bankruptcy.
  • Romney called for saving the companies from extinction, and Obama saved the companies from extinction.
  • Romney called for forcing shareholders and bondholders to take a bath, and Obama made shareholders and bondholders take a bath.
  • Romney called for federal loan guarantees for the automakers, and Obama provided loan guarantees, direct loans, and equity investments.

So the difference is that Obama wanted more direct federal aide, but both guys wanted government aid and structured bankruptcy to save the companies.

Still, Democrats, speaking from Obama’s playbook, will keep attacking Romney for proposing mostly what Obama did. As Bill Clinton put it last night, “You got to give one thing: It takes some brass to attack a guy for doing what you did.”  http://washingtonexaminer.com/obama-did-let-detroit-go-bankrupt/article/2507182#.UJFDUmcwjkY

To which I would add (paraphrasing here):  Still, Republicans, speaking from Romney’s playbook, will keep attacking Obama for doing mostly what Romney proposed.  Oh, the irony.

I have no great love for Detroit's auto industry and think they have been too slow to react, but am glad that they didn't hemhorrhage jobs.  FYI, I own and drive a Prius.  When it was purchased in 2005, Detroit's Big Three didn't offer anything comparable.  I'm glad to see that they're finally getting some sense of need to increase fuel efficiency.  As for the "green cars that were crap" comment, that might be your personal conviction but hardly is a statement of fact.  Some of the stuff circulating about the Volt, for instance, consists of outright lies and deliberate deceptions. 

Jabberwocka

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Wed, 10-31-2012 - 12:40pm
Interesting, that modifier of "almost". I live in New Mexico which has a Republican governor who's been systematically dismantling environmental safeguards for clean water. The state has gained jobs in mining (am guessing that includes drilling) but led the nation for job losses in June. http://www.santafenewmexican.com/localnews/072112jobs#.UJFSt2cwjkY So much for the claim that "[states with] the worst numbers are, not coincidentally, run by Democrats." Governor Martinez would do well to remember that the state's population cannot live or WORK without clean drinking water.

Jabberwocka

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