OWS and the First Amendment

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OWS and the First Amendment
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Sun, 10-30-2011 - 12:55pm

Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or

~ SW

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Registered: 07-11-2006
Fri, 11-04-2011 - 2:40pm

I repeat:

The right's attempt to link anti-Semitism to the general OWS is despicable

That's what I call despicable.

Yes, I know. You find all things liberal to be despicable.

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Registered: 03-02-2009
Fri, 11-04-2011 - 9:06pm
Two wrongs don't make a right.

"Resist, we much. We must, and we much. About that, be committed."

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Registered: 03-02-2009
Sat, 11-05-2011 - 10:51am

It's getting hard to keep track of the crimes and bigotry over there...

"Resist, we much. We must, and we much. About that, be committed."

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Registered: 07-11-2006
Sat, 11-05-2011 - 9:43pm

Well, why don't you just make some more stuff up. It's not like you are differentiating the fact from the fiction anyway.

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Registered: 03-02-2009
Sat, 11-05-2011 - 11:50pm

Yeah, none of this is happening at the criminals on wall street. Just keep denying the facts. LOL!

"Resist, we much. We must, and we much. About that, be committed."

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Registered: 10-25-2006
Sun, 11-06-2011 - 8:37am

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There is no politician on the left, or even on the right, who actually cares about losing the votes of anti-Semitic U.S. citizens.

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http://www.pnhp.org/news/2009/october/meet_the_new_health_.php

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DQTBYQlQ7yM

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Registered: 03-03-2009
Sun, 11-06-2011 - 11:50am
How about gays? http://racistornotracist.tumblr.com/post/529064340/straight-pride-shirts-at-tea-party-rally-draw I think that any ad hoc group can attract lunatic fringe types. What ultimately matters is the degree to which they tolerate and encourage/discourage bad behavior.

I read your link. Predators weren't being tolerated. And:
"The large, metal-framed “safety tent” -- which will be guarded by an all-female patrol -- can accommodate as many as 18 people and will be used during the day for women-only meetings, said Occupy Wall Street organizers."


Jabberwocka

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Registered: 10-01-2004
Sat, 11-12-2011 - 6:22pm

So far the OWS "protestors" have confiscated public land and turned it into cess pools of disease, violence, substance abuse and violence.

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Sun, 11-13-2011 - 10:13am
Do you know what "confiscate" means? Here's Merriam Webster: Definition of CONFISCATE
1
: appropriated by the government : forfeited
2
: deprived of property by confiscation

OWS has not, by any common definition of the word, "confiscated" any land.

Yes, there have been deplorable incidents. But you're taking isolated cases and using them to damn the whole movement. Considering the number of protests and how many people have been involved, they have been relatively peaceful and clean. It would be interesting to see if they've been any more "dirty" or violent than say a busy national park like Yosemite. Do you resent the work Yosemite's ranger staff does too? Just wondering........ I used to live in St. Louis. The mess under the Arch after the 4th of July holiday was remarkable. No protest either, just a high density of people.

So the "pitiful excuse" phrasing seem to me more pejorative than factual.

Politicians will often align themselves with those causes which seem to polarize and attract strong voter feelings. The "tea party" was no different though its inception was a lot less grassroots (see FreedomWorks).

I lived overseas (ironically enough, in a staging area for troops being sent to Southeast Asia) at the time but can remember the headlines and newscasts which covered student sit-ins to protest the Vietnam war. Some of their actions were extreme, but so also were police reactions (Kent State). Point is that at the time young men who could not yet vote were nonetheless being conscripted to fight in a war with no clear purpose or exit strategy. Both Democrats and Republicans had been party to perpetuating that war. There was a level of fury and frustration about what seemed like futility in pursuing change through the political process. I think that those who are participating in OWS share some of the same traits.

"Answer to the "tea party"? No, I don't think so unless you are referring to the obduracy of "tea party" leaders in refusing to understand that many of the programs they want to cut, rather than raise taxes, are considered social safety nets. They run a very real risk of being soundly slapped in the next voting cycle.

Jabberwocka

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