Traitor or Incompetent?

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Traitor or Incompetent?
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Thu, 06-23-2011 - 11:16am

He has

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Thu, 06-23-2011 - 4:01pm

The thread title is insulting and misleading, in light of the link you posted which does NOT characterize him as either; therefore the correct answer to your question is "neither" .

Also your claims are just that, not facts.

Jabberwocka

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Thu, 06-23-2011 - 4:10pm
Afghan army successes cannot mask fears of what happens when US goes

Despite the progress made by home-trained soldiers, there are worries that the Taliban will quickly fill the void

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Thu, 06-23-2011 - 5:01pm
I heard this before. During Vietnam. When we occupied a country where a guerrilla war was being fought for the "hearts and minds of the people" while a corrupt and self-serving government took what it could get and gave lip service to cooperation. Karzai is a crook, so is his brother, and both are condemning and undermining U.S. troop actions. Time to get the hellouttathere.

Although it made some sense to try to weed out the Taliban, and track down Osama bin Ladin (mission accomplished), it's quite clear to me that Afghanistan is suffering from the same phenomenon as that of Vietnam--mission creep. Powell's Doctrine should get a fair shake instead of being relegated to the dusty halls of academia.

Jabberwocka

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Fri, 06-24-2011 - 9:06am

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DQTBYQlQ7yM

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Sun, 06-26-2011 - 12:17am

We knew he was incompetent going in. Then he got into office, and he proves it everyday. I don't know if he is just plain stupid, or is so committed to getting rid of our Constitution that he will do anything it takes, including letting our

"Resist, we much. We must, and we much. About that, be committed."

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Sun, 06-26-2011 - 7:57am

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Taking in a bit too much of that Kochstream media, eh?

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http://www.pnhp.org/news/2009/october/meet_the_new_health_.php

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DQTBYQlQ7yM

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Sun, 06-26-2011 - 5:06pm
From FactCheck.org.

President Obama has spent all or part of 26 days "on vacation" during his first year as president, according to CBS News White House Correspondent Mark Knoller.

Knoller, who has covered every president since Gerald Ford and is known for keeping detailed records on presidential travel, counts the following among President Obama’s "vacations" in 2009:

* A four-day holiday weekend in Chicago in February where the president played some basketball and treated First Lady Michelle Obama to a Valentine’s Day dinner date.
* An eight-day stay with his family at a rented house on Martha’s Vineyard in August.
* A trip out west to the U.S. states of Montana, Wyoming, Colorado and Arizona that combined both business and pleasure. The president held town hall meetings on health care during the trip. And he went fly fishing and took trips to Yellowstone National Park and the Grand Canyon with his wife and two daughters.
* An 11-day stay in Hawaii where the president and his family celebrated Christmas and New Year’s Eve.

Some of the president’s recent predecessors, however, have spent more days — either entirely or partially — away from the White House "on vacation" during their first year in office.

President Reagan, in 1981, spent all or part of 42 days away from the White House "on vacation" at his home in Santa Barbara, Calif, according to Knoller. President Reagan and his wife, Nancy, also spent three or four days around New Year’s Day each year in Palm Springs, Calif., at the home of philanthropist Walter Annenberg. (In 1993 the late Mr. Annenberg founded the nonpartisan Annenberg Public Policy Center of the University of Pennsylvania, which is FactCheck.org’s parent organization.)

President George W. Bush spent even more time away from the presidential mansion in the nation’s capital than Reagan. Of the 77 total "vacation" trips the former president made to his Texas ranch while in office, nine of them — all or part of 69 days — came during his first year as president in 2001, according to Knoller.

Bush’s father, President George H.W. Bush, spent less time "on vacation" during his first year than his son, but spent more days than President Obama. According to travel records provided to FactCheck.org by the George Bush Presidential Library and Museum, the former president took six trips — spanning all or part of 40 days — to the Bush family compound in Kennebunkport, Maine, in 1989. The archivist at Bush’s presidential library told us she didn’t have a list of all vacations but did have the Kennebunkport visits.

But at least two recent presidents — by Knoller’s count — took less "vacation" time during their first year than President Obama — Presidents Jimmy Carter and Bill Clinton.

According to Knoller, Carter spent just 19 days "on vacation" in 1977. Most of that time, Knoller says, the former president spent at his home in Plains, Ga. President Clinton took all or part of 174 days of vacation during his eight years as president — most of that "vacation" time was during the summer, according to Knoller. But Knoller says Clinton only took 21 "vacation" days during his first year.

It’s worth mentioning that President Obama has also made 11 trips — all or part of 27 days — to Camp David, the presidential retreat in Frederick County, Md. Knoller, however, says he doesn’t count trips to Camp David as part of any presidents’ "vacation" time. But for the sake of comparison, President George W. Bush, made more trips to that country residence than Obama. According to Knoller, Bush made 25 trips — a total of 78 days — to Camp David in 2001.

But no matter how much time a president actually spends away from the official residence at 1600 Pennsylvania Ave., Knoller says that the commander in chief is never really off the clock. "I have long held the view that a US president is never really on vacation," Knoller told FactCheck.org in an e-mail. "The job – and its awesome powers and responsibilities – is his wherever he is and whatever he’s doing." http://www.factcheck.org/2010/01/president-obamas-vacation-days/

Jabberwocka

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Sun, 06-26-2011 - 10:00pm

Yeah, remember when Bush played a round of golf after we were at war? The media was all over him. How outrageous that he would play golf with our troops in harms way!

How's Obama's golf game doing?

This guy just wants to live it up on our dollars. What did he do on Memorial day?

"Resist, we much. We must, and we much. About that, be committed."

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Sun, 06-26-2011 - 10:52pm

Actually,

Jabberwocka

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Sun, 06-26-2011 - 11:29pm

Obama laid a wreath at Arlington Cemetery this past Memorial

"Resist, we much. We must, and we much. About that, be committed."

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