Tired

Community Leader
Registered: 05-23-2003
Tired
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Mon, 03-12-2012 - 1:48pm

Happy daylight savings time, everyone!

No, I'm sorry, that's a lie.

    

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iVillage Member
Registered: 08-18-2008
In reply to: justkim2007
Tue, 03-13-2012 - 10:55am

Hi Kim,

I hope you are less tired today and that the time adjustment is being kinder to you today. I am wide awake but I admit it is caffeine aided.

Whether you think you can or you think you can't you are probably right. A parrot can repeat what it has learned but the mark of true intelligence is applying what is learned.

Community Leader
Registered: 05-23-2003
In reply to: justkim2007
Tue, 03-13-2012 - 1:06pm
Hi Ei!

No, I'm still tired today, but I am maybe a tad more coherent than I was yesterday. Although, how would I judge that for myself, anyway? Isn't it hard to really be objective about that sort of thing? I mean - what if I *think* that I'm being coherent but really, I'm too tired to tell, and I'm actually just babbling about nothing? (Again. Still. ALWAYS.)

So wait...if I am understanding your post correctly...everyone who passes this testing gets a "hey, awesome!" unless they are special ed students who used electronic accommodations (which I assume is written into their IEP) in which case, no one recognizes them at all for passing?

Um...that kind of blows, actually.

Kim

    

iVillage Member
Registered: 08-18-2008
In reply to: justkim2007
Tue, 03-13-2012 - 1:38pm

LOL Kim! If babbling is a sign of being too tired, then I qualify daily!

And why yes, you understood the post absolutely correctly! It does blow in a major way!

E1

Whether you think you can or you think you can't you are probably right. A parrot can repeat what it has learned but the mark of true intelligence is applying what is learned.

Community Leader
Registered: 05-23-2003
In reply to: justkim2007
Tue, 03-13-2012 - 1:42pm
So...

You know that I sort of have a rebel's heart sometimes, yes?

Because in that sort of situation...I would be muttering quietly to myself, wondering out loud why the special ed kids even bother TAKING the test if there is no acknowledgement made when they PASS it...



I know. This is not the right message to send to the children. We don't pass tests for public accolades, we pass tests for our own personal satisfaction of a job well done.



;)

Kim

    

iVillage Member
Registered: 08-18-2008
In reply to: justkim2007
Tue, 03-13-2012 - 2:28pm

I hear you and I know the kids feel that way too. It’s a wonder they are motivated to attend school every day in a system that constantly lets them down and fails them.

My message is and has been even during the times I’m muttering under my breath and out loud some of what you have in your reply—To succeed in spite of it. To find a way to work and succeed in this system because isn’t life a bunch of systems where a whole lot of why it is set up “that” way makes no sense and you are required to do a lot of stuff that makes absolutely no sense?

Because the other option is to allow it to defeat you and to fail…and….that is really not a viable option either.

It’s not fair but Special Ed kids learn before many other kids that life simply is not fair and that we all have challenges and obstacles to overcome. They learn to pick their battles because every day is an uphill battle for many of them.

Whether you think you can or you think you can't you are probably right. A parrot can repeat what it has learned but the mark of true intelligence is applying what is learned.

Community Leader
Registered: 05-23-2003
In reply to: justkim2007
Tue, 03-13-2012 - 2:37pm
I do a lot of stuff that makes absolutely no sense. Oh, wait...I think I misunderstood your post there. Nevermind. :)

I do hear you, though. It's not fair at all, and I'm sure that it's a constant battle, just to get through each day when so many things are stacked against you. :(

Kim

    

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Registered: 05-16-2011
In reply to: justkim2007
Wed, 03-14-2012 - 4:43am

Empowerment, I have just read this post. I am stunned at what you have written. What is the sstems reasoning behind this because I for the life of me can't imagine there is a good one?! What you have written about how hard they work and how much they have to overcome to finish HS is something that so many people, including some teachers, just don't get. I feel so sad for the children and their families, how utterly discouraging for them all.

The core of who you are is not always obvious to everyone. But to believe what others may believe of you can cause you to deny yourself, the wonders, of who you really are.
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Registered: 01-11-2012
In reply to: justkim2007
Wed, 03-14-2012 - 11:17am
E1, that is just so sad, and plain dumb spiteful from the school system. Are you in the US?

My son is dyslexic, not sure if he would fall in the special ed category you speak of, but he works his butt off just to barely get a passing grade and that's with accommodations and the benefit of a computer for writing tests. In 8 yrs, he has had only one teacher who recognized that he worked hard.

Kim, its Wed, and I still haven't gotten used to the time changed. Can someone explain what is so great about having to wake up in pitch darkness?
iVillage Member
Registered: 08-18-2008
In reply to: justkim2007
Wed, 03-14-2012 - 1:26pm

Hi RTMO,

Good to see you on posting!

Hi Happy,

Good to see you over here posting too! Thank you for sharing about you son. It feels like such a constant uphill battle doesn’t it? I’m in the US. Are you in the US as well?

Whether you think you can or you think you can't you are probably right. A parrot can repeat what it has learned but the mark of true intelligence is applying what is learned.

iVillage Member
Registered: 05-16-2011
In reply to: justkim2007
Wed, 03-14-2012 - 5:14pm

Hi E1. My son also has dysgraphia, a few auditory processing issues and a poor working memory. We haven't had the same experience of having mostly great teachers. I am starting to think he would have been better off in the public system as I have found the schools he has been in, in most cases been unwilling to change their views that children who have educational needs have behavioural problems that need to be addressed more then the educational needs. We have fought so hard and supplied so much information and ideas to help the school understand our son but they have mainly focussed on his behaviour. The teachers who have really made the effort to understand and have worked closely with us, have not experienced the bad level of behaviour that the other teachers have. Yet when those same teachers who have put him in a box of being a pain in the a**, have gotten to know him outside of the classroom or seen him on camp, where he just naturally falls into leadership roles and helps the other kids, they see a different side of him and really end up liking him. When he puts in a tonne of effort to learn something, which is not always easy with his poor working memory as repitition is the key here, they are shocked that he can pull off an A+ because they haven't bothered reading his psych reports where it shows his poor working memory is at odds with him due to his intelligence. Unfortunately good marks are few and far between because like you said, he has to work doubly hard compared to the other students to retain what he learns, while also dealing with the dysgraphia and filter out any noise that is going on around him so he can concentrate on what is being said from the front of the classroom.

The core of who you are is not always obvious to everyone. But to believe what others may believe of you can cause you to deny yourself, the wonders, of who you really are.

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