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Tue, 01-27-2004 - 12:01pm

It's a man's view./but/is this site really far off? www.intellectualwhores.com



  • Yes. This is an offensive chauvinistic site. Way wrong
  • Yes. This site is wrong, but understandable
  • Maybe. This type of thing is circumstantial
  • No. The site is basically right, even if rude
  • No. Site is right, and not rude
  • No. This guy has it completely figured out!


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Tue, 01-27-2004 - 12:07pm
Explanation-

I hope I don't get blasted for this one... but, I don't think I will.

The site referred to above, "www.intellectualwhores.com" is not a vulgar site w/ nudies or anything. A friend referred me to it. When you read what this guy says about his "ladder theory"... at least from a guy's perspective, there is a lot of truth there (I thought).

The site, in a very odd way, has helped me a bit with my situation.

He doesn't invent the expression, but borrowed "intellectual whore" from a Woody Allen script, where Woody was being "used" to fulfill a woman's desire for intellectual interaction, only to be discarded for a biker dude. The writer does say all women are bitches... but I don't think he means it in a overly mean way (hey... I know a lot of women who would say the same thing!).

Visit the site first, and then vote. Feel free to respond w/ thoughts. It is a lengthy site to read. But this guy's "ladder theory" makes a lot of sense to me. What do you think?

(Peace!)

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Tue, 01-27-2004 - 2:01pm
less offensive site name...Different site- same article... :

www.laddertheory.com

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Thu, 01-29-2004 - 12:10pm
Ok Riverguy

Here we go. I read through this ladder theory twice thinking perhaps I missed something the first time. The label "intellectual whore" doesn't belong in this theory from what I read. It is a label applied to all women which doesn't fit due to everyone having their own life experiences. The label would be fitting for women who are out capture a man with money and power only. I do believe that there are women who do that. We all have witnessed that, however, it is not realistic to label the entire gender.

In regards to men wanting to #&#*$ every woman that they are attracted too.... Yes I believe this is correct. Men are driven by their sexuality and that isn't a bad thing. However, it is their responsibility to know their boundries and act or react according. It is not our responsibility as women to keep from damaging a mans ego if we simply do not feel a connection. This author seems to believe that women are responsible for a mans feelings regarding all dynamics.

Finally, in defense of women, as women mature they most likely will look for stable qualities in a man. This most likely will not include alcohol, drugs, financial instability, abuse, etc. Who (man or woman) wants to deal with all that garbage. If this is manipulated to appear to be power/rich/handsome...that is sad.

Just me two cents.

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Thu, 01-29-2004 - 1:50pm
Oh no. You have mis-read it. The label applies to THE MAN, not the woman. The site was written by a man who has apparently had bad luck w/ the wimmens.

The term "intellectual whore" does not apply to the women. It applies to men who feel they get used by women for conversation, understanding, and support.... only to be disregarded as dating material. In that sense, the man was the "intellectual" whore... that is, HE was used for his mind, and got nothing back (at least, not what he was hoping for). The man got used, and is therefore the whore, because (in the website writer's example) the man keeps going back again and again, not realizing that there are 2 ladders for women ( a friendship ladder vs. an "I'd do that" ladder). Most men only have the one ladder (the "I'd do that" ladder"). Most men also don't realize that women have the two ladders. (There's where the ego damage you mention comes from).

The rest of the site goes on to discuss what it is about men that will lead to them being regarded as "just friends" vs. what will put them on the "I'd do that" ladder. Once on the woman's "I'd do that" ladder, it is almost impossible for a man to "jump" back to the friendship ladder. Some men will always stay on the friendship ladder, and never jump to the woman's "I'd do that" ladder. A guy on the friendship ladder who thinks he's on the other ladder is, according to the site writer, an intellectual whore. But no. The term never refers to the women. This guy says y'all are all 'bitches'... (haha!)

I saw some stuff I disagreed with, but also saw some pretty "right-on" stuff. When he describes what women are attracted to, I had to agree (for the most part.. of course there are exceptions). How else do we get the rich old ugly guy w/ the trophy wife/OW?