Giving up.

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Registered: 03-06-2012
Giving up.
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Tue, 03-06-2012 - 9:03am

I am at a loss. Long story short": married 25 years, 2 adult children, financially secure, 2 career family, empty nesters, long term sexual mismatch, gone to counseling, read books, watched movies, we've done just about anything anyone can suggest (I think). I was a virgin, he was not. He has always been into sex more than me. He wants me to be horny each evening. I've tried. I'm just not. I don't know how to 'get horny" and "be ready" for him when he gets into bed. I just don't have sexual longings. I think a big part of it is ithat I am satisfied with an orgasm every few months or so, so unless we just stop having sex for a few months, I probably won't ever get to the point where I am horny and "wanting him". I do NOT expect to stop having sex. We have sex about 3 times a week, sometimes we have sex 5 or 6 times. He keeps a calendar above the bed that I am required to put a mark in as 15 years ago, in counseling, I did not "understand" that we had sex just 2 times that week and I "lied" to the counselor and said that we had sex 3 times. The calendar was my homework (counselor) the tag "liar" was from my husband. Three times has been the least amount since that particular appointment. I do not roll my eyes, tell him to hurry, or "just lay there." Trust me, I do whatever I can to bring him to an orgasm when he tells me he's ready. What I don't do is treat him like I can't get enough of him. I have acted to the best of my ability like the women on the movies that we watch several times a week, but I do a bad job and it looks fake (according to my husband) so I don't do that anymore. Just recently he has began telling me that he can't trust me as I told the counselor that most of the passion that I "act" with during sex is just that, an act. I don't feel real passion and I don't know how to bring it out of me. My husband told me that he wanted me to "act more passionate", so I did. But, now he says that he meant he wanted me to feel more passion, which I can't do; acting is all that I have if he wants passion. Because I admitted to acting, he now peppers his comments to me with stuff like "I'd ask what you want to order for dinner, but you probably wouldn't be truthful", "are you tired, be truthful now". I've been feeling like a I deserve, so I've not said much other than I'll be as truthful as I can. Becuase we've had this hyper-awareness of truth going on, I've noticed a few things and thank goodness the counselor did too. My husband said something like "I've done more around the house than most of my friends because I thought it would take some of the pressure away and you'd feel more passion. Do you think I like cleaning the cat box?" As it turns out, he's been just as dishonest as I've been. He also claimed that he had been the one having to 'act" all of these years like everything was ok. No he hasn't. He's been very vocal since day one when his sexual needs were barking. He's never accepted a turndown

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Registered: 07-28-2011
In reply to: mrsataloss
Wed, 03-07-2012 - 8:12am
alwaysfalling wrote:

He left our house for the evening; don't know where he went. He is an attorney; our state isn't one that would look favorably on me changing the locks and denying him access to a home he jointly owns. That's movie stuff, I think. Not sure what is going on. Our situation has taken a nasty turn since he has been asked to explain his double standard on truth. He is selfish, but so am I. We've both been terrible to each other. A divorce will be nasty, but I think it's the only answer for me. I think I'm in a vengful mood. I really want him to explain how my pasionate act, that he requested, is more decietful than his "helping around the house to get more sex" act. It really doesn't matter, but the double standard is driving me crazy. He has spent so much time putting me down for my failure as a spouse and now I want to return it full force. That is why I think we should end it.

You have sex three times a week despite having no sexual longings.

That's not good enough for him.

You mark each sexual occasion on a calendar to make sure you don't "lie."

That's not good enough for him.

He told you he wanted you to act more passionate, so you did.

That's not good enough for him.

At this point, it must

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Registered: 10-10-2011
In reply to: mrsataloss
Wed, 03-07-2012 - 6:56am

He left our house for the evening; don't know where he went. He is an attorney; our state isn't one that would look favorably on me changing the locks and denying him access to a home he jointly owns. That's movie stuff, I think. Not sure what is going on. Our situation has taken a nasty turn since he has been asked to explain his double standard on truth. He is selfish, but so am I. We've both been terrible to each other. A divorce will be nasty, but I think it's the only answer for me. I think I'm in a vengful mood. I really want him to explain how my pasionate act, that he requested, is more decietful than his "helping around the house to get more sex" act. It really doesn't matter, but the double standard is driving me crazy. He has spent so much time putting me down for my failure as a spouse and now I want to return it full force. That is why I think we should end it.

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Registered: 04-16-2008
In reply to: mrsataloss
Wed, 03-07-2012 - 12:37am
Wow, threatening to show pages of your private diary and nude pictures around. This sounds like something a high school kid would do to scare his GF into getting what he wants. I think you should quick call a locksmith and change the locks BEFORE he comes home. That is after you put all his belongings in trash bags and throw them out in the driveway.
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Registered: 09-16-2004
In reply to: mrsataloss
Tue, 03-06-2012 - 8:15pm
Left where? He doesn't live with you?
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Registered: 09-21-2011
In reply to: mrsataloss
Tue, 03-06-2012 - 8:00pm
Maybe you should not be there when he comes home. Be where you are appreciated
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Registered: 03-06-2012
In reply to: mrsataloss
Tue, 03-06-2012 - 7:56pm

Thank you so much for the replies. He has left for the evening, he said he wants to be where he's appreciated. Me too.

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Registered: 02-21-2003
In reply to: mrsataloss
Tue, 03-06-2012 - 7:27pm
You've got adult children. You and your husband are very far apart sexually. Your husband is unwilling, and possibly unable, to accept what you have to give him. You're both angry at each other. Maybe this is a good time to call the marriage a day. It sounds like you'd both be happier for it.

I suggest you not take the bait when he threatens to show your pictures around, or anything else. If he does, he does. People aren't stupid and will figure out what's what.

Good luck,

Freelance
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Registered: 11-22-2011
In reply to: mrsataloss
Tue, 03-06-2012 - 2:12pm

mrs.

First, to help you put things in perspective, 3 times a month is the high end of the sexual frequency scale in my marriage. Once is more the norm. I would be thrilled with 3 times per week.

Next, how can your husband possibly expect you to feel any sort of passion towards him given the way he treats you? I don't know what to tell you except that I find it remarkable that you have remained in the marriage this long. Do not let him bully you with threats of what he will do to your reputation should you leave him. If you do leave, have friends nearby whom you can talk to about what you are feeling and tell them what the truth is.

Above all don't let your husband keep bullying you.

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Registered: 02-02-2004
In reply to: mrsataloss
Tue, 03-06-2012 - 10:26am
I feel for both of you. Such a tragedy. I think you behaved graciously and he seems to take what you have offered for granted, but as a frustrated HL (higher libido partner) I feel his pain as well.

Wish there were a magic wand we could wave to resolve this. Maybe if you express to your H that you are serious about leaving, he may regret his harsh words and internally inconsistent statements. Best wishes for a positive resolution.

When you see it coming, duck!

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Registered: 09-21-2011
In reply to: mrsataloss
Tue, 03-06-2012 - 10:11am

"I am so angry that he seems to cut me down at every point."

He is selfish and vindictive and if he is threatening to show people nude pitures of you and the pages from your diary, then he doesn;t rate very high on the maturity scale either. You said he is a good father, wel no not really, a good father would not cut down their mother at every opportunity. A good father would not threaten their mother with emabarassment, which will also embarass the children.

A good man would not post a calendar above the bed and expect hash marks denoting every time you had sex. A good man would not consistently call his wife a liar.

You say you turned out to be ahuge disappointment to him, because you weren't sexually experienced enough? If you had been, at this point he wilod be calling you a slut.

Get a good lawyer and reclaim your life.