Have to correct you a little bit there Jeep...the women over here on the East coast (only talking about one state - just giving reference as to where I am at) are allowed to rub whatever, wherever. I had so many boobs and goonyas in my face - literally - that I was a bit embarassed until I fell into the hang of things, but only because I was not used to it as I had never been to a strip club before. And if you win the Hot Seat, or pay for one, which is performed in front of the entire club - the intensity is so much greater. For example, I had a woman come up to me (and since I am under 21 I had two huge X's on each hand and had to wear these Mardi Gras beads), pull me forward by the beads so close to her face I thought she was going to kiss me, stand me up, lift her leg and wrap it around my shoulders and her p*ssy was *right* in front of my face. She then proceeded to turn me around - to face the others in the bar - tip/bend be backwards, put the money in my mouth, slide her hands down my shirt (but on the outside of my bra), pinch my nipples, then take the money by squeezing her breasts together. And this wasn't even in the Hot Seat - which as I mentioned in an earlier post I had the pleasure of winning in a raffle. I loved every minute of it, don't get me wrong, but the women did and were allowed to do that to men and women. You don't always have to pay and be in a separate room for things like that to go on.
im not ignorant. i watched it plenty and i know how it affects me.
to all. thanks for the replies but i don't feel that i have to have sex with him if there's a chance that he's using my body. i don't care if he goes and masturbates. it's his alone time and i want no part of it. i think i'm being very fair. i'm not putting restraints on him, he gets his pleasure - just not from me. his choice - my choice. i'm not punishing him for going, i'm just watching out for me. it would be worse if i tried to ignore it and harbored resentments after the fact. it's my body i respect it and i have to be happy with how it's used.
>> Anyone who judges without knowledge is showing the ignorance they have, and ignorance is the greatest evil of all. <<
Have you been raped or have you raped someone? You have posted here about your knowledge of victims, even though(I assume) you have no first hand involvement. Isn't that ignorant of you to assume you know when you haven't(presumably) been in that situation? How is it any different then people who read about/talk to people who have been to strip clubs and then decide it's not for them?
Wrong again, Jeep. It's legal here in Texas. Men cannot touch the performer at any time, but she can touch the patron. Right out in the open.
And I think you're looking at this from a purely male viewpoint, too, and missing the other side of the equation completely. The OP obviously feels that her partner is compromising their relationship when he goes to these places. Whether she forbids him from going or not.
I just wanted to add that I know for certain that my state, and the next state over (both of which haven't been named in this thread so far), also are legal for wide-open lap dancing, rubbing, touching, etc. in the strip clubs...that is, stripper-to-customer contact. There are the back rooms too, and one can only assume that for the extra $100 they have to pay for the cheap bottle of champagne, they're getting even more than the grinding that goes on in the main area. (This is how they get around the law; the client is supposedly buying champagne but of course is paying for whatever it is that goes on behind the closed door.) The contact is the way most of them make their real money. Just dancing on a stage above the customers doesn't cut it anymore. The girls aggressively get in customer's faces to get more tips, and have to compete against each other for attention and money.
This stuff goes on in many states. I can understand why many women who know their husband has just been there, and knows what goes on in their local strip club, aren't exactly turned on to their husband when he gets home with a desperate need to "get off" inside his convenient wife, after *just* having been turned on and groped by another woman. Even people who don't feel that way about it, must be at least able to see why some would.
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Jeep, in PA it is legal to get a lap dance, rubbing and the dancers
to all. thanks for the replies but i don't feel that i have to have sex with him if there's a chance that he's using my body. i don't care if he goes and masturbates. it's his alone time and i want no part of it. i think i'm being very fair. i'm not putting restraints on him, he gets his pleasure - just not from me. his choice - my choice. i'm not punishing him for going, i'm just watching out for me. it would be worse if i tried to ignore it and harbored resentments after the fact. it's my body i respect it and i have to be happy with how it's used.
Have you been raped or have you raped someone? You have posted here about your knowledge of victims, even though(I assume) you have no first hand involvement. Isn't that ignorant of you to assume you know when you haven't(presumably) been in that situation? How is it any different then people who read about/talk to people who have been to strip clubs and then decide it's not for them?
Leticia
And I think you're looking at this from a purely male viewpoint, too, and missing the other side of the equation completely. The OP obviously feels that her partner is compromising their relationship when he goes to these places. Whether she forbids him from going or not.
This stuff goes on in many states. I can understand why many women who know their husband has just been there, and knows what goes on in their local strip club, aren't exactly turned on to their husband when he gets home with a desperate need to "get off" inside his convenient wife, after *just* having been turned on and groped by another woman. Even people who don't feel that way about it, must be at least able to see why some would.
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No you don't have to have sex with him if you feel he is using you, but that is where I see the problem.
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