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Anyone appreciate hair down there?
| Mon, 09-27-2004 - 5:00pm |
Does anyone actually appreciate the presence of, and appearance of pubic hair? After reviewing many of the message posts within this site and hearing from different people in public it seems like everyone is on a mission to end the presence of all bikini hair on earth forever. I find pubic hair to be physically appealing and am especially interested to hear some replies from others within the 20-30 age bracket of which I am a part. I have no issue with maintanence, but find the brazilian method a bit much. I need to know that I am not the only one left who sees value in keeping hair down there. I'm looking for as many posts as possible, please fill me in.
Edited 9/29/2004 9:34 pm ET ET by flyguy2004
Edited 9/29/2004 9:34 pm ET ET by flyguy2004

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I myself would never shave anything but my face, and I don't really understand the appeal of men shaving in general. To me it seems a vain foppish emasculating thing to do, although I know a lot of people go for that. I had a roomate who shaved his scrotum, he was always touting it by saying that chicks dig it and hee recieves more and better oral sex. The downside was that the stuble was itchy as hell and he was constantly scratching himself. It doesn't seem worth it to me.
I dated a girl who didn't shave her pits or legs either. Like most other members of my generation here in North America, I grew up with the attitude that it was unacceptable for women to have any body hair. But, I found I got used to her body almost immediately although I'm sure my friends would have given me a ribbin' if they knew. She wasn't very hairy anyways, so it totaly wasn't a big deal to me. SHe was from Europe and was resisting what she saw as materialistic, shallow, sex and youth and beauty obsessed, fake and manufactured American culture invading her culture along with the rest of the world. I totally agree with her, although I said that if she thinks she has it bad, she should try being Canadian. Last year she was in New Zealand and she told me that she finally bowed to the pressure, although she felt like she was abandoning her principals. I felt pretty sorry for her, although part of me is happy since I'm sure it helped her feel more comfortable.
It seems counter intuitive to me that sexual attraction can be increased by changing the natural patterns of our secondary sexual characteristics. I have stewed over this a bit and have come up with a few pet hypotheses. In regards to women, why would less body hair than is natural atract men? I think it capitalizes on patterns that are already present by super stimulating them (some may recall my cuckoo posting of a month or more ago). One aspect could be it enhances the differences between the sexes (men are naturally hairier). Second, it indicates youth. Now, I want to be very careful here to specify that I am not making any suggestions about what is moral here, that has nothing to do with what I'm saying. I'm purely discussing these ideas for their explanatory ability (or lack thereof). Anyway, the average age of maximum atractiveness for women across cultures in one experiment was 17. In many circumstances during the history of human evolution the most favourable age for reproductive partners from the males point of view might be even younger. THere are several reasons that I think this might be true. One is simple biology, younger women are more fertile (to a point). Another is that before this century life expectancy was usually below 50, probably more like 35-45 years. Younger mates will have more time to raise children and grandchildren before they die. Finally, very young women are less likely to have had other sexual partners. THat gives a man's reproductive chances a big boost because she is less likely to be already pregnant or to have other children whcih means less competition for his offspring. The last two factors will tend to push the optimal age of a sexual parnter for a man further towards the younger end of the spectrum than even simple fertility would predict. It might also be significant that the average age of puberty was historically older than it was now. We also know that in many other times and periods, it was very commen for women to marry very young (12-15). So based on that, the cultural phenomenon of body hair removal is probably fueled by innate behavioural patterns that compell men to seek young (often very young) partners and to recognize attractiveness by pronounced secondary sexual characteristics (relative lack of body hair in this case). Of course in marketing driven American culture, cultural trends are made or broken depending on whether someone is making money on it. There is a multi billion dollar industry created around exagerating womens' sexual characteristics and youthfullness and this industry pays heavily to promote these trends.
-phat
I'm definitely out of the age group you mentioned ( I'm 52; DW is 47), but I view the present obsession with the elimination of all pubic ( and body ) hair with great distaste. I love pubic hair on women and obviously have no desire to remove my own. If you want to know what the current opinion is among younger folks, go over to askmen.com, there're a couple of threads there on women shaving and men shaving. It seems almost 100% are in favor of women shaving all or most and surprisingly enough most of the men seem to be into shaving at least part as well.
phat,
I'm just like you, I prefer pubic fur and a nice womanly triangle. I also find the little landing strip to be unattractive - might as well shave it all instead of pretending. You mentioned the European woman who thought shaving was fake, shallow, etc. I was a hippy back in the early 70s and I've never lost my attraction for the natural look for women.
You mentioned the exaggeration of secondary sexual characteristics possibly being a factor. I didn't quite follow you there since pubic hair is called "pubic" because it grows in at puberty. Prepubescent women would be incapable of becoming pregnant, wouldn't they?
You mention the economic factor and that's a good one. There is a billion dollar industry concerned with shaving, waxing, and other means of body hair removal. I'm sure this is quite a growth industry nowadays with increased demand for hair removal on women plus many men.
Personally I'm with the woman of my dreams who definitely possesses a "womanly triangle". I love the feel of it when I'm caressing her there and since digital is one of our favorites I love probing through her silky pubes to find her labia. I give her a little trim right around her labial lips, which eliminates any discomfort from hair during digital or oral. Incidentally many woman mention that shaving makes them more sensitive , but DW is already so sensitive that she starts orgasming within 5 minutes and has multiple orgasms every session from oral, digital, and intercourse. Actually, our favorite is intercourse, and I think the presence of pubic hair makes it more pleasurable than bare would be (especially if there was any kind of stubble).
DW hates to shave. Her triangle is rather extensive and tends to escape from the bottom of her swimsuit. She used to shave that area and hated the stubble and the itching. Now she uses the simple expedient of wearing a small pair of nylon shorts over the bottom of her (1-piece) tanksuit when we go out in public. Since we usually go to water parks or kayaking this is a good idea to protect the bottom of the suit anyway. She doesn't sunbathe so there's no problem.
Wow Phat, you really thought that one out.
I like no hair but if my b/f still had hair there it would be just fine with me.
I'm not in the age range, almost 20.
- I didn't mean prebuscent, because you're right,they couldn't become pregnant. What I meant was just outside of puberty, but still not fully mature.
ALso puberty is called puberty because that is when pubic hair grows in, lol.
-I wasn't talking about individual motivation but rather the ultimate explanations for phenomenon in society. Although you have certain concious motivations for shaving, it wouldn't have occured to you in previous times and so would never have happened, but in modern US society in this case, there is already a culture and emerging tradition of removing body hair so that the option is culturaly available to you. The reason that has happened is a combination of the media and advertising industry exploiting behavioural paterns that are innate. At least that is what I think.
-phat
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