Anyone appreciate hair down there?
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Anyone appreciate hair down there?
| Mon, 09-27-2004 - 5:00pm |
Does anyone actually appreciate the presence of, and appearance of pubic hair? After reviewing many of the message posts within this site and hearing from different people in public it seems like everyone is on a mission to end the presence of all bikini hair on earth forever. I find pubic hair to be physically appealing and am especially interested to hear some replies from others within the 20-30 age bracket of which I am a part. I have no issue with maintanence, but find the brazilian method a bit much. I need to know that I am not the only one left who sees value in keeping hair down there. I'm looking for as many posts as possible, please fill me in.
Edited 9/29/2004 9:34 pm ET ET by flyguy2004
Edited 9/29/2004 9:34 pm ET ET by flyguy2004

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Ok, flyguy,
Since your OP wanted to hear from people who LIKE and APPRECIATE pubic hair and who aren't part of the movement to eradicate it completely and since 80% of the posts on here are from the "pro-shavers" ( I guess they somehow missed the meaning of your original question and decided to hijack the thread to promote their views), I think it's time for me to chime back in with my pro-hair POV.
I've been browsing some on the net and have hit a few porn sites (yeah, I'm not too proud of it). Most actually specialize in women who still have hair. I haven't viewed much porn for years and the last time I did the vast majority of the women still had hair. I happened on a site which I guess was "mainstream" and all of the women were completely shaven. And in my opinion, it did make them look VERY young and not mature, though they were mature in other ways. And the "offensive" remark was "look like a young girl OR a porn star". I also find it rather contradictory to applaud shaving so much and bask in the trendiness of it, and then jump on a young woman who felt she had to shave though she hated it. It's precisely all this promotion of the trend that makes women like that feel so pressured to conform.
And since people talk about the look and feel when shaved, here's my counter-opinion. My wife could hardly be more sensitive and she is incredibly responsive to my touch. To me though, the feel of her pubic hair is even more important than the appearance. I love the feel of the silky hair there when I do digital or oral ( I have never gotten pubic hair between my teeth or even in my mouth, though I occasionally get head hair in my mouth -no biggie) and it provides a silky cushion during intercourse. She used to shave around the edges for her swimsuit and hated it because she regularly got bumps, irritations, and ingrown hairs. Now she doesn't shave there and simply wears a small pair of nylon shorts over her swimsuit bottom
taoist
I posted this thread a few months ago and am absolutely thrilled with the number of responses I have received. I proposed the "hair down there" question to you all because it is not just a little thing as many have said it is. Apparently many people have deeply rooted convictions on the subject. I personally love the look and presence of "hair down there" on women (myself as an early twenty-something male) as I have stated in my phrasing of the original question. Due to the fact that there are SO MANY people out there jumping on the shaven look trend I had to take a defensive position. No, everyone does not hate the presence of hair down there!!!! Many times within group discussion on the occasional time the subject is brought up I hear how nasty and aweful, how "gross" it is to have pubic hair. I'm sick of being outnumbered on this subject and frankly "beat up" (not physically) when presenting the pro-hair down there view. When you are out there looking for someone and you realize that your chances of finding someone within your age bracket who shares your views are slim, its kinda depressing, (not that its the end of the world). Unfortunately there seems to exist such a polar divide on the subject of appreciating hair down there or not that it actually is an important topic. I'm under the assumption that I am outnumbered greatly in the no hair vs pro hair topic, especially within my age group. Girls, i'm not talking about unshaven armpits and legs here for those who may have made such conclusions, i'm talking about the pubic area! Heck, any authors out there? Probably would make a great book!!!!
<<much and bask in the trendiness of it, and then jump on a young woman who felt she had to shave though she hated it>>>
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I don't wax, shave, or trim my pubic area. Being in my mid-twenties, I suppose I'm in the minority... Heck, I don't even bother shaving my legs and armpits in the winter (since I'm covered up everyday). My husband doesn't mind.
I'm sure a lot girls out there endure the pain/discomfort of shaving/waxing to "fit in" because they think that's the norm, like shaved legs and armpits are the norm. But a lot of these girls would rather not having to go through the pain/discomfort and spend the time/money/effort, if they are accepted/appreciated for having a natural look. So, I'm sure you can easily find someone who would be more than happy to "keep her bush".
It just bothered me that you got highly offended at the "9-year-old girl or porn star" remark, but we never heard anything from you when women who didn't shave or trim were called , "not their best" "ungroomed" "unkempt" , and even "dirty" . I can even remember discussions where women's pubic hair was called "gross" and "disgusting".
Actually , I go even farther than flyguy, I not only like women's pubic hair, but I like women's body hair in general( though I'm pretty neutral about hair on legs). Lately I've checked out a few websites ( "Hair to Stay" is the main one) and what really upsets me is than men who like women's pubic hair are now considered to be "fetishers". Why are those who like something which naturally occurs on all mature women considered "fetishers" when those who are obsessive about women removing every scrap of naturally occuring body hair they possess (including pubic hair) are considered perfectly normal, even hip and sexually aware. Answer that one for me, please.
Why would you be bothered because I got offended by being told women who shave look like 9 yr old little girls?
"Since hair grows on your face, it's natural so is there any difference between pub shaving and face shaving or leg or armpit shaving? What about boxers who shave their arms? What about cutting the hair on your head? I just don't see what the difference is. "
Is there any difference between face shaving and pub shaving? YES! Everybody who sees me every day sees my face - pubic hair is an entirely private matter.
"What about cutting the hair on your head?" FYI, I was a hippy back in the 70s and had hair down way past my shoulders. I cut it off because I was going abroad and didn't want to deal with the condemnation. And it was extremely curly and kind of a hassle anyway. I kept the beard for more than 20 years and only shaved it off three years ago because it was getting too much gray in it (kept the mustache, though). Again neither facial nor head hair is in any way equvalent to pubic hair, since pubic hair is completely PRIVATE. Even much more so than leg or armpit hair, which can easily be covered up. As a man, I have never shaved anything except my face, or trimmed any hair except that on my head. I have hairy arms, legs, and chest, and I have never thought this was dirty, unkempt, ungroomed - infact I think it looks good and natural. Women who have hair on their bodies do not look like men. They have female body hair. Saying they look like men is as offensive as someone saying you look like a 9-year-old girl because you don't have any pubic hair.
The battle for the acceptability of hair on women's legs and armpits was lost long before you and I were born ( at least in the U.S.- and it's on its way out in Europe as well, due to U.S. influence). But pubic hair is an entirely PRIVATE matter. Since you've been married forever to a man who doesn't care one way or the other, I don't think you realize how much pressure is put on women , especially young women, to shave, whether they like it or not. All her life my wife has been pressured to shave her legs and armpits to be acceptable. So much so that she assumes hairless legs and pits are the only way to go. It's not even a personal choice for her any more. BUT she absolutely draws the line at shaving her pubic hair and fortunately her age and circumstances ( I'm the only one who sees it)allow her to make a personal choice.
I read askmen.com a lot and most of the men over there are in the 20 - 40 age range , and believe me , the pressure is really on for young women to shave. If you needed any more proof, take flyguy, for instance. He's a man in his 20s who appreciates women with pubic hair and he KNOWS most women his age shave completely or partially. That's what this thread was supposed to be all about. Personally I'm glad that he did get some encouragement for the way he feels.
taoist
"the pro-hair down there view"
I like that! I'm tired of being considered a "fetisher".
I'm so glad you spoke up , flyguy , and revealed how intense the pressure and indoctrination is now. I'm sure there are those on this board who will say," Just find some woman you want to be with and tell her you appreciate it - of course she'll let it grow out". Just like they told the young woman who shaved just to please her BF to dump the cad. It just ain't that simple. When you've been hearing how "nasty", "awful" and "gross" it is to have pubic hair, it's going to take more than one man (however important) to make you feel comfortable with your pubic hair. I know because that's the way women my age feel about armpit hair. It really isn't a personal choice any more.
taoist
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