Does size define masculinity?
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Does size define masculinity?
| Sat, 10-29-2005 - 4:51pm |
Several threads over the last 6 months have got me wondering:
Does size define a guy's masculinity?
If you'd answer yes, then how much weight would you attribute to this physical feature in how you view a guy's masculinity?
If you'd answer somewhat, then what weight would you attribute to a guy's size in your list of masculine attributes both physical and personal?
If you'd answer no, then what attributes both physical and personal do you define as being masculine?
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The fact that you wear jeans tight enough to attract attention to your new "package" tells me that you would fit right into the locker room mentality. It sounds to me that you have bought into a message that is spewed by people who are immature or uneducated in the ways of the world, at best. Ultimately a big dick is NOT what most women look for in a man. It is a warm, caring intelligent,unselfish,ambitious,hard working man who loves her. Size only comes into play , for most women, if it is way too small or way too big....Even then , where love is involved they learn to adapt.
There will always be size queens, but they are in the minority. There is a reason why
there are average sized guys, they fit nicely into an average size vagina.
In my case, I am a larger than average, but I do not think it has made any difference in my searches for my perfect mate.
Even at my size, I have had to be very carful when Ive been with women who are on the shallow side..Its not fun for either of us...Who wants to have to "be careful" during sex?
Ive also been with a couple women who whould tell me during sex, "go deeper".. Sorry hon thats all I have..lol But that was only two women...Maybe they need a 9"er..
Your attitude about women and their concern for size is aimed at a very very small percentage of women.
Many of the women here are on the more intelligent side of what women really like and want, and they dont buy into the mentality that you are talking about...I`ll take the opinion of a self aware intelligent woman over an immature ego influenced person any day.
Listen to Tish, Aisha, Kat, and some of the others here who think rationally, they represent more of the true attitude thats out there than what a few size queens represent.
I don't wear tight jeans. They are regular fit, but can still indicate if a guy has more than average for flaccid. My viewpoint about size matters is misunderstood somewhat. Ok, I think we agree there are size queens that size is important to and that they are in a minority percentage. Size queens keep getting stressed in this forum as if to say a woman is either a size queen or doesn't care about size. Either one or the other. Let's forget about sizequeens for a moment so that maybe it will help clarify my viewpoint.
What I believe is that amongst the remaining women (sizequeens left out of the picture here) there are those that extra size does make a difference to in bed. They don't put importance on it though. Some (not all) of these women have bigger than average size vaginas.
There are also those that extra size isn't better to, and average is better to. Some of these women (not all) have smaller than average size vaginas.
There are also women that don't care about size either way. It makes no difference to them.
The other qualities you mentioned that a women look for in a man do matter. Except for size queens, with women penis size isn't up there in ranking with those qualities. However, (not including size queens here) the group of women that prefer bigger, and the group of women that prefer average still have their penis size preferences despite the fact there are more important qualities than a penis to them. In the bedroom, size makes a difference in her level of enjoyment during intercourse, but if a guy has those other more important qualities she's not usually going to even think about how some extra size or less size would be more optimum for her.
Some here may agree with above assessment, I don't know. Here's where I know I vary from most here: Everything I've checked indicates that there are more women in the two groups that prefer above average or big, than the other two groups combined (those that prefer average and those that size doesnt matter to).
BTW, you tried to invalidate the opinions of women (the same ones you just so happened to agree with until I pointed out they aren't saying what you said they did). 7"ers go into the above average group, not into the average size group and below. You've never said 7" was average before, and only suddenly came up with that recently to swing the charts I was presenting. Also, once again, there are two sides to the part about female misconceptions about size. Yes, they will see a guy as bigger than he is after being with smaller, but it also often happens once women have been with above average and bigger they will see a smaller guy as smaller than he really is. You keep leaving that second part out completely.
Humpdaddy, unless I'm mistaken, I'm thinking that it was you that use to run many polls here. I remember thinking way back when I first visited here that you were someone similiar to me, someone who wanted to see if opinions are right, wrong, or somewhere in between right and wrong. I was happy to see someone else who didn't just have an opinion formed to believe whatever it was they wanted to believe, and was willing to check their own opinion's validation out. We are all human, prone to all kind of mistakes, and so why not realise our opinions can be ill formed also. I now wonder why you bothered to do surveys on any subjects that your mind was already made up about. I can understand your doing surveys when your mind isn't strongly formed on it, as you are certainly more open to the results then I'm sure. There's nothing wrong with questioning the results of surveys. There are very good reasons to at times. But to suddenly move the 7"ers into the average group, saying 7"ers aren't big and belong classified with average and small (they are still extra size and considered so by women) was clearly a sudden manuever that doesn't fit your previous viewpoints. Also, to only say that women see bigger than is, and therefore the charts/opinions are inflated, and to not even mention they also see smaller than is, is clearly biased thinking. Not objective at all. It's just like you thought almost all women in that stripper forum wanted "average" size (7" isn't "average"). I put the numbers up showing your memory was faulty, and influenced by what you wanted to remember. I have no doubt that what happened was you recalled the ones that did say average, and didn't much recall the others that didn't fall in line with your viewpoint. It's called selective memory. I'm not isolating you - selective memory is a well documented pyschological way of seeing things the way we want to. We are all prone to do it, but some are more prone to it than others.
Thanks Hump. I know how women feel being judged by the size, etc. of body parts, and it's not fun, in fact it feels very demeaning. So, I find it very difficult to believe that men WANT to be judged by the size of their penises.
I guess I just do NOT understand this fascination with one's own penis. I have genitals myself but I don't study, research, explore and obsess over them to this extent. I tend to think that at some point, it becomes unhealthy and completely misses the point of their purpose.
Edited 11/7/2005 2:28 pm ET by katmandoo2001
It all depends on WHO is doing the looking though. LOL! Time and place are also important considerations. I don't mind being admired but being JUDGED based on physical attributes alone is demeaning.
And there is NO correct or incorrect opinion. An opinion is an opinion and they are all equal, whether you agree with them or not.
Edited 11/7/2005 4:37 pm ET by katmandoo2001
Yes when I was new here I compared polls from this forum and a couple others, and they were normally similar...A few wanting large and most wanting ave or slightly bigger than ave.(@7)
AS FOR FOR MY MEMORY, IT IS FINE ...YOUR HOWEVER IS TAINTED..
BY THE WAY, IN SOME POLLS AVE IS UP TO 6.5...WE`RE TALKING A HALF AN INCH HERE, SHEESH.
I never said anything to sway my view point
Sheesh why am I trying to convince a guy who is hell bent on thinking most women want a huge penis.......
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