Giving oral sex to uncircumcised penis

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Registered: 03-21-2005
Giving oral sex to uncircumcised penis
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Tue, 03-22-2005 - 10:56pm
My bf is uncircumcised, and I don't really like giving oral b/c of the excessive skin and the secretion hidden underneath the skin. I tried to clean it with facial tissues before oral but it seems that he doesn't like it when I wipe it down because he said it hurts a little (even though I tried to do it gently, I guess the head is more sensitive due to always being underneath the skin). He likes it when I give him oral before putting it in. Is there a difference in terms of giving oral to an uncircumcised penis and circumcised penis? What should I do?

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Registered: 04-26-2005
Tue, 05-03-2005 - 10:14am

As I posted earlier, the practice was started in America in the 1800's to curb masturbation and was started for without ANY true medical reason. Many years ago, when it was thought important to prevent masturbation, American health authorities advocated circumcision. There is no longer any national or international public health authority in the western world which advocates the routine circumcision of infants. (SOURCE: http://www.fathermag.com/health/circ/)

As for Jewish circumcision, your comment (quote)"But the Jews knew 10,000 years ago that it was bad stuff and they solved this with circumcision, which is still the preferred procedure today in major health care centers"(unquote) is absolutely untrue. You may be surprised, or indifferent, to learn it is NOT a common practice and is actually being recommended against. (Source: http://www.jewishcircumcision.org/) First of all, the jewish religion did not exist 10,000 years ago, but there's no sense in telling you that since you don't believe in the facts anyway. In fact, the first recorded act of circumsicion was about 2000 years ago when Jews circumcised as an act of faith and devotion to Christ. However, Galatians 5.6 refers to to circumcision, in which Paul the Apostle said "For in Christ Jesus, neither circumcision nor uncircumcision has any value. The only thing that counts is faith expressing itself through love." In other words, Jews did it as an act faith, not for medical reasons. So why do is it still done? Becasue society has accepted it as normal. I guess "bad stuff" had nothing to do with it. Coincidentally, wasn't animal and human sacrifice once done as an act of faith. Curious.

As far as being an "objective debate", you made it subjective when you said (quote)"In addition to all of this, it can fester and become infected, carries bacteria which are not good for women (it is a known carcinogen and a contributor to cervial cancer. )God knows what happens if you swallow it or have it in your mouth for awhile."(unquote) This statement,as well as others you have made, is not based in truth, which makes them subjective statements.

As for female circumcision, you said (quote)"Oh, by the way, I found the remark about "female circumcision" crude, offensive and an unnecessary slam in an objective debate. If you think there is any similarity whatsoever, you are clueless."(unquote) This is also subjective, but I think we already cleared up the difference beween being objective and subjective. So I'll move on. Here are the reasons some cultures perform female circumsicion. Sexuality: "It is believed that by performing the operation in its mild form the sexual desire of the girl is decreased thus hindering the chances of sexual promiscuity." Also, tradition: "The acceptable image of a woman with a place in society is that of one who is circumcised among other various characteristics. The fear of losing the psychological, moral, and material benefits of "belonging" is one of the greatest motivators of conformity." Also, hygiene: "It is believed that the secretions produced by the glands in the labia minora and majora are foul smelling, unhygienic and so make the female body unclean." And, lastly, appearance: "External genitalia are considered ugly and become more beautiful after circumcision." (SOURCE: http://www.islam-online.net/iol-english/dowalia/techng-2000-August-22/techng9.asp). These are the EXACT SAME REASONS men are circumcised.Don't try to begin to say they are not similar, they are ABSOLUTELY THE SAME.

You say I'm clueless? Before you spout of your own opinion as fact, I'd do some more research if I were you and get a clue as to what you are discussing.

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Registered: 04-25-2005
Thu, 05-05-2005 - 4:04pm

SO why do you suppose that 95%+ of MALE AMERICAN PORN STARS are circumcized ?

Like I said, I'll go with the experts.......................

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Registered: 04-25-2005
Thu, 05-05-2005 - 4:09pm

Those of us who know FROM PRACTICAL EXPERIENCE know.

I know the given reasons for female circumcision and genital mutilation, the fact that you would find it useful or justified in ANY case, states my case for me. Thanks.

I will let those who read these posts and know the difference make up their own minds. And again, all else aside, we were TALKING ABOUT ORAL SEX.

My guy prefers not having sex with his foreskin. He and I both like the way it feels "exposed" at all times.

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Registered: 04-25-2005
Thu, 05-05-2005 - 4:14pm

Gee, I thought this board was for WOMEN !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

If I want to argue with a man, I will go home and visit my parents.

PS: You seem to have more 'heresay' worthless info than Cliff Claven on "Cheers". You are NOT Cliffy are you ?

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Registered: 07-13-2004
Thu, 05-05-2005 - 4:50pm

i don't remember if i already posted on this thread before a few months back... anyway, here's my 2 cents: i'm italian, here in europe (civilised?) the only people who do get circumsized (and not all) are jews and muslims and they only do it for religious beliefs/tradition.
circumcision is a non-issue over here. people just don't talk about it. there is no medical/scientific/social debate about it. it is normal to be uncircumcised. and yes, everybody has sex, intercourse, oral, anal whatever just like across the ocean.
i don't personally know or have even ever heard of anyone who cuased/had any health problems because of their foreskin.

personal hygeine and foreskin are two very different things.

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Registered: 03-26-2003
Thu, 05-05-2005 - 6:12pm

I take offense to your very unnecessary comment that Europe is somehow more "civilised" than the US simply because of a particular custom difference, as with the prevalence of circumcision here.

The decision to circumsize, or not, has nothing to do with being civilized and everything to do with the personal choice of parents or an individual man.




Edited 5/5/2005 6:29 pm ET ET by katmandoo2001
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Registered: 07-13-2004
Fri, 05-06-2005 - 1:45am
hi. that was just an ironic remark to the person i was replying to because in one of her posts she mentioned how circumcision is common and "the thing" in all civilizied countries and that is simply untrue.
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Registered: 03-26-2003
Fri, 05-06-2005 - 10:12am
I understand and I agree.

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