Isn't Anybody On My Side???
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Isn't Anybody On My Side???
| Wed, 08-11-2004 - 11:12am |
I was just wondering why everybody is so understanding when it comes to guys whatching porn??? i cant for the life of me see how all the women know that their men are looking at that crap...and they are OK with it! This is somehting that makes me very angry! i can understand if they were to watch it together and get off, i guess thats no so bad. but when a man or woman takes interest in it alone, then whats the most humiliating thing one can do to another!!! its almost like we ladies just have to accept the need for more than one woman!!!
Does anyone see where im coming from???
Does anyone see where im coming from???
no one seems to feel the same way i do, but i know im not wrong, and if theres anyone out there who agrees with me please let me know!
thanks, and sorry for the hostility

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When men or women begin to expect their partners to behave or look as the screen stars do, then we have a real problem. Many men, Castleman admits, view porn and expect their women to love doing nothing more than servicing them in the bedroom -- which is the scene so often depicted in porn (women servicing men in all sorts of ways with no pleasure in it for them). Moreover, many men expect their women to have easy orgasms and orgasms through intercourse alone -- all because those are the messages conveyed by porn images. If we know the truth and we understand the exploitative nature of porn (men run the porn industry and make most of the money from it)then we can be responsible consumers of it.
Also, there is porn and then there is PORN -- the later is aggressively exploitative, often violent, and sometimes borderline illegal. Be careful.
And understand real women deserve just as much from sexual relations as men do and respond in ways that are very different from what porn would have us believe. And men rarely have penises as large as those portrayed in porn or penises that get erect so quickly and are able to stay that way so long -- Viagra and the like have made good friends with the porn industry.
Best wishes,
Shamani2004
Most agree to that, I'm fairly certain.
>>Many men, Castleman admits, view porn and expect their women to love doing nothing more than servicing them in the bedroom -- which is the scene so often depicted in porn (women servicing men in all sorts of ways with no pleasure in it for them). Moreover, many men expect their women to have easy orgasms and orgasms through intercourse alone -- all because those are the messages conveyed by porn images...<<
I think is where many of us derive our communication problem with this subject of porn. I don't agree with the term "many men" at all I personally view it as completely different from many and/or men. See the difference?
I don't view a porn situation as one that involves the masses of men to the point of saying "many men" this or "many men" that. I instead view it as "many of those men" who aren't as in love with their women to avoid the pitfalls of porn OR "many of those men" who aren't sexually educated nor experienced enough to recognize sex as an expression of love with his partner as opposed to the wham bam method. Do you see the difference I'm mentioning here? There's no right or wrong in how Michael Castleman (author of "Great Sex") has presented his message, but I'm just exercising my right to opinion on this difference between how he, along with many, tend to present it compared to how I would.
I still believe the focus should be pivoted on the relationship first and THEN the rest as opposed to focusing on the "not to do's" and then the rest. We all have our different approaches though.
From a non-biblical point of view, I still see porn as fire and money. They are very useful if limited from uses of abuseful purposes. The few pieces of porn I saw in the past were, believe it or not, educational as opposed to addicting. Example, I have Dr. Patti's Kama Sutra video that MANY would instantly declare to be porn, but it was educational. Even the porn out there that is strictly for entertainment can be educational for the type of audience. If someone gets wrapped up into the pitfalls of porn, then that someone may not have been at the proper level of maturity to view it at the time, IMHO. As much as I would LOVE to blame porn for what it has negatively done to so many marriages and families and even individuals, the results are STILL the responsibility of those who choose to view it. Porn is not forced, but its too bad that its too easily available for so many who just simply aren't ready for it.
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I see what you are saying, and I think it is wording like that that adds to the sweeping generalizations made about men. There are particular types of men that are susceptible, but that doesn't mean all men are. By saying many men, it makes it sound like that majority of men are. Or are you saying something different?
Leticia
Its not , but its the majority, if not most, are not as in love with their own women as attracted to them who themselves just haven't the education/experience to treat sex as a loving partnership experience instead of the experience that porn portrays so often.
I WILL admit that "yes" there actually ARE men who are just perfect gentleman who lose control of the libido and develop unrealistic fantasies because of the sex addiction that developed just as a sober man becomes addicted to alcoholism and just as a clean man becomes addicted to drugs for example. YES that does happen here and there, but I'm just not willing to believe it happens to most men in general enough to simply say "many men" in regards to those who do AND don't have porn issues. I believe the statement should further identify the difference I guess, but I'm just two centing it here, I'm no author. LOL!
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