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Sat, 07-31-2004 - 12:00am
This is a really ridiculous question, but I honestly want to know the answer. Could I be arrested for walking down the street in a bikini? Would that be, like, indecent exposure? I've always wondered that. (Don't worry, I wasn't planning on doing it! *hehe*)

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Registered: 07-22-2004
Sun, 08-08-2004 - 10:51am
>>Isn't it strange that everyone has forgotten that Timberlake was the one that actually expossed the (dare I say it?) nipple? Looks like the old double standard raising its head again.<<

I'm confused, phatgenes, why do you feel that everyone has forgotten that? I think he is remembered as the fact that it was HER idea and the fact that it was . He did what regarding ; isn't THAT what he is remember for?

PLEASE somebody correct me if I didn't read that article right, LOL, I'd hate to be that misinformed forever. ;D

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Sun, 08-08-2004 - 11:15am
I think many here seemed to view it as a very cheap stunt as well, Yas. Two things though:

1) It was a stunt performed by a VERY popular Janet Jackson just some lady that nobody probably gives a hoot about, LOL, so that should be taken into consideration when viewing the US reaction to it. Does it make a difference? Of course not, just depends on who you are and how you chose to view it. All I'm saying is, would it be of a deal if it such an attractive celebrity? I'm putting my two cents in and saying . ;)

2) I still believe that America is just ONE of many cultures in the world that still clings to moral/religious values that may not be the same as different other cultures out there. Lets all keep in mind that the Muslim/Islamic world would have had QUITE the reaction to Janet's stunt, LOL!! All agreed? GOOD! Does it matter? Again, that depends on what culture you were brought up in, IMHO. Its always waaay too easy to claim its ALL individual, but at the same time, its just as okay to say that piercings and music selection and clothing styles and shaving are , huh? LOL!! I like your point. ;D

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Sun, 08-08-2004 - 1:47pm
One person's idea of "prudish" is not another's though! The Super Bowl, on a Sunday night with children, etc. watching was NOT the proper forum for Janet Jackson to try and refuel her career! Sorry. Wrong time, wrong place and POOR taste.
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Sun, 08-08-2004 - 11:36pm
I agree that it was a cheap stunt, although I don't understand why people were upset that children might have seen it. So people really believe that getting a brief glimpse of a woman's nipple is going to scar a child for life? If the wanted to protect their children they should have complained about Nellie's performance before Jackson and Timberlake went on.

What really bothered me about all the hysteria that came out as a result was how respected, adult TV shows like 'ER' and 'NYPD Blue' were forced to self-censor themselves because they were afraid of what Michael Powel and the FCC Decency Gestapo would do. I think that it's great the CBS is refusing to pay the fine the FCC is trying to impose on them. The fines are total BS and are just censorship by intimidation.

Rob Schneider said on Bill Maher's show that he thought no one would have made such a big deal if it had been Britney Spears' nipple. I don't agree, but it is an interesting question to ponder. Think she would be interested in testing the hypothesis, LOL?

Oh, and whenever we have to rationalize letting the government control what we can think and see by saying "At least it's not as bad as in Islamic countries." then we've got real problems. Know what I mean?

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Mon, 08-09-2004 - 12:22am
I think people are missing the point about my original comparison between the states and other countries. I was trying to express the idea that the US exhibits a great deal of objectification and comersialization and obsession with sex, but at the same time a prudish fear of sex. Not all Americans are like this of course, but that is the impression that people get from that country. Of course other countries are more conservative or more casual or liberal about sexual and body issues. However, they don't experience the degree of conflict. It,s like telling a girl that she must be available and sexy and then calling her a slut the next minute. Islamic societies may be more prudish, but they wouldn't have had a nipple flashing incident in the first place.
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Tue, 08-10-2004 - 11:59pm
>>I agree that it was a cheap stunt, although I don't understand why people were upset that children might have seen it.<<

Without children of their own, people will probably have that same view, LOL. There's a why approriate attire is so enforced throughout our school systems I suppose. I guess "part" of the big deal with that stunt was that the general public was "legally" promised that it was okay to watch this show without fear of being exposed to something that they, the public and their children, would feel is inappropriate. Otherwise, if I didn't want my child walking with me along a nudist beach, then thats my parental responsibility to prevent that from happening if I can help it. I wouldn't want a nude man or women walking by my yard with my child playing there any more than I'd want my child to see Janet's boob I suppose. I guess I would agree that the big deal is both individual AND cultural .

>>Oh, and whenever we have to rationalize letting the government control what we can think and see by saying "At least it's not as bad as in Islamic countries." then we've got real problems. Know what I mean?<<

I think I'll need you to clear up my confusion, LOL, I don't recall anyone using that excuse for to decide anything for us. Like I said before though, the parents typically decide for their children on this issue despite what the government says anyway IMHO.

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