Penis Size Debate
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| Fri, 03-10-2006 - 11:37pm |
If others have seen my posts on penis size, completely ignore them because I often post when I am frustrated or temporarily insane.
Anyhow, the debate goes on and on, and reflecting on all the archives, it is the same story, but yet everyone can begin the debate all over, like me. Here is my take on it.
Does size matter? Depends. If yes, how much? Depends.
I took a rough survey using the 700 plus posts on the subject and I have come up with really rough numbers that classify 4 types of women. Now, women who dont really care about size because they dont really care too much about sex are not included. I am tempted to not include women who have only had less than 3 partners, but I figured that is too discriminating, although 80% of women now probably do have at least 3 partners, so.....
Anyhow, here is my take
35%(group A) Size doesnt matter in the slightest for all intensive purposes
45%(group B) They "prefer" big enough to feel completely full, but if not, no worries.
15%(group C) They NEED to feel quite full.
5% (group E) size queen (Need to be filled and a whole lot more!)
I dont want to get into semantics about G-spots, hot spots in the vagina, size of vagina, etc. Lets just say that being full means a very snug/tight feeling around the penis for a sufficient "enough" depth. For some, that could be 5x4.5, and for others, 9x7.
Now, men who are insecure (or secure well hung macho-bacho men) will feel that 65% (45+15+5) of women think size is quite important. The insecure men might hear a completely honest woman from group B say, "7.5x5.5 is better(all else equal), but 5.5x4.5 will do just fine", and feel bad about it.
If men are secure, they might feel that 80% (45+35) of women dont care to a significant degree. Among the women who do care, some only need "6x5" to feel full enough anyway.
My numbers are HIGHLY debatable, but ASSUMING they are right, my conclusion is:
Even though size does clearly "matter" for the simple majority, a confident man will find that it only REALLY matters 20% of the time at MOST! This is how I feel personally.

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~I don't know why we need statistically analysis~
I didnt know how to convey my 3 major points without the numbers. I could have said there are 4 groups, a large one, somewhat large one, tiny one, and small one, but I just arbitrarily used numbers. Made the arguments easier. What I re-iterated and what hump daddy and been-there said are consistent with my motives for using numbers.
Like I said the numbers arent crucial. You can use qualitative instead of quantative. No big deal. But remember, most penis size debates have surveys that measure statistal data.
~It soon becomes readily apparent that women come in all shapes and sizes and all have different preferences.~
Very true, which would imply size does matter to some. But how many? How many guys should be self-concious about their equipment. How big of a deal is it? Is it rare for a girl to think less of you due to your size? Etc. This is why there is a "debate". No one debates that some girls will dump guys because they were less than seven inches, and some girls will date guys under 1 inch long, but what men usually ask is do "women" as a group care about.
~"There must be a certain perfect size that all women will be happy with and I bet that it's bigger than what I have myself"~
I dont think men want to be a perfect size, but for those that do, the answer is trivial. There is no perfect size! Bigger is not always better. And yes, there is a too big for many women. I dont think there is a debate here.
~Your post didn't "rub me the wrong way" at all. But your "assumptions" sure did.~
I apologize (sincerely). I dont want to rub anyone the wrong way.
Edited 3/15/2006 1:15 am ET by curiousgeroge
curiousgeorge,
I liked your post about the usefulness of numbers. I've always been a numbers person, and was always the top student in each math class as I went through school, usually with 100 averages in that subject. It came easily. My weakness was the geometry class, where I struggeled to even maintain an A. Also, high school and college formulas were a bit troublesome to memorize, and I must admit I don't recall many of them anymore.
So I related well to your classification with numbers. You will find (if you don't already know) though, that many people don't care much for the usage of numbers when it comes to talking about sex, or people. Their approach is more of a 'just let each person be an individual', and they don't see any reason to be applying numbers/percentages to people.
I like the use of numbers for the very reason you explained so well. Then I like to follow it up by looking at the why behind the percentages - why are there more in one group than in another? The ultimately important thing is the individual (as the anti-numbers group point out), but why aren't the individuals equally spread out into the groups has interest for me.
An overlook of percentage classification can give us clues about how important a subject is overall. I agreed with your opening post because it represents what seems clear to me now:
Women that size matters to none whatsoever make up a small percentage group on one extreme of the scale. Women that size is very important to make up a small group on the other end of the scale. Women that size makes a difference for, but is not as unimportant to as the first group, but is also not as important to as the second group, make up the majority of women.
The main reason I've grown somewhat bored with this topic, when it comes to looking at the breakdown of percentages, is that to me it has become apparent that the size matters topic is actually no different than other topics (within reason) in that regards. In other words, the majority consist of a diluted blend of ideas of the extremes - the extremes that are exact opposites of each other (size doesn't matter at all vs size queens) that make up the smaller groups on each end of scale of viewpoint. It's a balanced out scale, and there really is no reason to look any farther into that. It turns out to be nothing more than a natural obvious breakdown of classifications afterall.
The whys behind the numbers' classifications in topics still holds interest for me though. That's the bread and butter. The classification of the viewpoints of people into groups is nothing more than another identical plastic wrap.
curiousgeorge,
This is off topic, but it suddenly started scratching at me, so I'm compelled to ask. Are you the one that a long while back expressed concern in a post about your penis size, and others replied that size doesn't matter and told you that there is nothing you could do to change your size anyway. After their replies, I later posted to you that exercises do work slowly, but are risky without proper knowledge). I don't think you ever responded, and so I wasn't sure if you saw my post?
~This is off topic, but it suddenly started scratching at me, so I'm compelled to ask. Are you the one that a long while back expressed concern in a post about your penis size, and others replied that size doesn't matter and told you that there is nothing you could do to change your size anyway. After their replies, I later posted to you that exercises do work slowly, but are risky without proper knowledge). I don't think you ever responded, and so I wasn't sure if you saw my post?~
This is a little off the topic at hand but a valid question.
My answer is
1) Yep that was me
2) I did see your post
3) I am familiar with those excercises and everything else that you mentioned.
4) It was my assessment that the excercises were risky for what I needed to accomplish. If anything,I want a firmer more maintainable erection, not a larger one.
That post was made during an interesting 4 week period in my life, so it is contrary to my current feelings. Although I wouldnt mind a larger penis, I dont care all that much anymore. Thank goodness for large toys :). Anyhow, there are other interesting thoughts I have (details), but I will wait and see if this current post goes out any further.
Then there is the debate ,What does big mean ..Length? Girth? a combo of both?
same with little...
What is big in one vagina may feel small to another, and visa versa. I have had women friends tell me they cant tell the difference between a 5" penis and an 8" penis , once its inside, but they sure can tell the the difference in girth at first, but even then the vagina can adapt to that also.
With some women a 5" penis is too long and with others an 8" penis touches nothing .. Men and women are all different in shape, sizes and preferences. My personal feelings are that I just like a nice fit where it feels good for both, and I can let go and really be vigorous if necessary without worrying about going too deep and hurting her... I have had women where they were shallow and I had to be careful of going too deep, and others where that was NOOO problem.
~What really ticks me off is when some really insensitive woman gets on here and says something like," Yes size matters to women , A LOT!..The women who say it doesnt matter are just lying."~
This is precisely one of my points of this entire point. She is either in the 5% group, or a less educated/frustrated more extreme woman from the 15% group. Without getting into the sub-groups, she obviously represents the 15% of women that should be ignored. She feels she is speaking for all women when in fact she is speaking for 15% tops.
~Then there is the debate ,What does big mean ..Length? Girth? a combo of both?
same with little...~
~With some women a 5" penis is too long and with others an 8" penis touches nothing .. Men and women are all different in shape, sizes and preferences.~
I agree, the debate on the perfect size is worthless. Fit is the key. Huge men are better for larger vaginas, etc. I dont care what people say about all vaginas being the same size when aroused. I have about 6 friends who are very experienced and they say vaginas come in different fits, although many are mid-range.
As for what size is small or large, well I can say somewhat definitively that small is probably under 4, and large is probably larger than 9. Small girth is less than 4 and large would be larger than 7. Unfortunately, that doesnt say much because basically I said 95% of men are niether definitively large or small.
~I have had women where they were shallow and I had to be careful of going too deep, and others where that was NOOO problem.~
Yep. Fit is the most important. No one size is large or small.
I have the perfect answeer.....personal preference! Thats all there is to it. How many times do you read on these boards that what works for one person does not work for another, ect..... So it stands to reason that the only answeer to the ridiculous debate about penis size is just this..... personal preference!
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