Penis Size Debate
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| Fri, 03-10-2006 - 11:37pm |
If others have seen my posts on penis size, completely ignore them because I often post when I am frustrated or temporarily insane.
Anyhow, the debate goes on and on, and reflecting on all the archives, it is the same story, but yet everyone can begin the debate all over, like me. Here is my take on it.
Does size matter? Depends. If yes, how much? Depends.
I took a rough survey using the 700 plus posts on the subject and I have come up with really rough numbers that classify 4 types of women. Now, women who dont really care about size because they dont really care too much about sex are not included. I am tempted to not include women who have only had less than 3 partners, but I figured that is too discriminating, although 80% of women now probably do have at least 3 partners, so.....
Anyhow, here is my take
35%(group A) Size doesnt matter in the slightest for all intensive purposes
45%(group B) They "prefer" big enough to feel completely full, but if not, no worries.
15%(group C) They NEED to feel quite full.
5% (group E) size queen (Need to be filled and a whole lot more!)
I dont want to get into semantics about G-spots, hot spots in the vagina, size of vagina, etc. Lets just say that being full means a very snug/tight feeling around the penis for a sufficient "enough" depth. For some, that could be 5x4.5, and for others, 9x7.
Now, men who are insecure (or secure well hung macho-bacho men) will feel that 65% (45+15+5) of women think size is quite important. The insecure men might hear a completely honest woman from group B say, "7.5x5.5 is better(all else equal), but 5.5x4.5 will do just fine", and feel bad about it.
If men are secure, they might feel that 80% (45+35) of women dont care to a significant degree. Among the women who do care, some only need "6x5" to feel full enough anyway.
My numbers are HIGHLY debatable, but ASSUMING they are right, my conclusion is:
Even though size does clearly "matter" for the simple majority, a confident man will find that it only REALLY matters 20% of the time at MOST! This is how I feel personally.

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My wife has told me about her past experiences. In college she had one "really big" guy who was scary and not fun at all. Her ex was "large" and she didn't really enjoy it with him, never orgasmed and said "doggy" style was the least uncomfortable. I'm average and she orgasms every time with me.
taoist
According to all of my friends(both male and female) and my own experiences(and most of my boyfriend's), it is very rare that a woman can't handle a large penis. It simply stops - it doesn't go any further - however, it doesn't hit anything that hurts. Men only push as far as it will go. The larger men may not achieve full penetration, however, it's not painful like everyone says it can be. There is a very large market for large dildos and vibrators(all of my friends have large sized dildos). I have a large one and I can't take all of it however, even if I push as hard as I can it doesn't hurt, it just stops at a point where it can no longer enter. None of them(men and women) have ever complained that they couldn't accommodate or had problems inserting an average size penis(5-7") or larger.
I wanted to add: When men press women for details of the size of men they had sex with in the past and they were larger than the men they are currently with, a standard response is: "He may have been larger, but it hurt so I'm happy you are not as large." We do not want them to feel inferior in any way.
Length doesn't matter as much as width, however, nobody I know has ever said that they bottomed out or hurt a woman(or any women who were hurt) and certainly not by an average size penis(7"). Disclaimer: Not saying it doesn't happen, I have heard stories that it can be painful - it was simply something that none of us encountered.
Ok, insatiable, you automatically cover yourself by saying women are lying to not make their average-sized boyfriends feel inferior. You can believe that if you want, but I think women like my wife are telling the truth.
Second, you say you and your friends have never been hurt by a full penetration, but I've read many, many women who report( as did my wife) that touching their cervix is very painful.
Third, 7" is NOT average. The average is probably around 6".
Fourth, Maybe you and your friends have huge dildos, but I once browsed a site that sold dildos and they stated that their most popular size was 5". Anyway, most women who have toys have vibrators, and other things rather than dildos.
taoist
Completely agree with you, Taoist.
My DH is average in length and in certain positions, when he hits my cervix, it takes my breath away, and not in a good way! My cervix is VERY sensitive, most likely because I have endometriosis. However, I know that I'm not the only one who does NOT like my cervix bumped or hit during intercourse. There is no reason why a poster would say this is painful if it isn't.
And I would never answer such a personal question about a former BF, even if my DH had asked. (He could have cared less.) It simply isn't relevant to OUR marriage or sexual relationship.
It's also insulting to assume that any woman needs to lie to protect anyone's ego. I say, don't ask if you don't want the truth.
Edited 3/22/2006 3:17 pm ET by katmandoo2001
If you go to this link, you can see actual MRI images of coitus.
http://bmj.bmjjournals.com/cgi/content/full/319/7225/1596
If you scroll down, you'll see the images. The penis glans is shaped on an angle so in missionary, the head sort of slips in place with the cervix(in an aroused woman it would be in a back, not up position). In doggie(where more women complain of discomfort) the glans is reversed, so it would seem that the point of the angle would be more in direct collision with the cervix(either in aroused position or not).
Some women have longer vaginas than others, and some have more sensitive cervixes than others(if you read the thread, you'd see that), which would explain why some "bottom out" and others do not. Some may just not go in any further because there's no more room, but not feel pain because their cervix isn't very sensitive, and yet others may be able to accommodate more length, and yet feel discomfort. There are too many variables, including amount of arousal(see other posts on this thread) to draw any definite conclusions.
I don't know why people discuss penis size--I don't see the purpose.
Edited 3/22/2006 11:45 pm ET by rain_dancer_iam
This has nothing to do with the penis size debate, what I would like to know is why would someone want to be scanned while they are having sex?
Wouldn't work for us either but I saw these MRIs being done on the Discovery Channel not that long ago.
It's obvious that a couple would have to exhibitionistic for sure!
tee hee If you scroll down the link, somewhere it explains that some of the women claimed that their orgasms were "superficial"--well what exactly did they expect? But I do believe that they were shown porn to get them in the mood and I'm going to assume that they were in some kind of tube(MRI's are usually) so they may have felt some sort of privacy. It reminds me of the study that they did on women and arousal(I'm going to assume that they used some type of indicator(perhaps MRI's as well). They made them watch porn and rate their arousal. Women claimed to not even be aroused, when they were in fact quite aroused. They blamed it on social stigmas...if I remembered correctly--some women will deny, deny, deny their sexuality at all costs. tee hee
I wonder how much they got paid....
I had to chuckle at the fact that she and all her friends all have really big dildos...I still think most women have no clue as to the length of a penis when the see one, but they take the guys word for it,, and we all know guys would never over estimate.....(wink)
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