Penis Size Debate

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Penis Size Debate
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Fri, 03-10-2006 - 11:37pm

If others have seen my posts on penis size, completely ignore them because I often post when I am frustrated or temporarily insane.

Anyhow, the debate goes on and on, and reflecting on all the archives, it is the same story, but yet everyone can begin the debate all over, like me. Here is my take on it.

Does size matter? Depends. If yes, how much? Depends.

I took a rough survey using the 700 plus posts on the subject and I have come up with really rough numbers that classify 4 types of women. Now, women who dont really care about size because they dont really care too much about sex are not included. I am tempted to not include women who have only had less than 3 partners, but I figured that is too discriminating, although 80% of women now probably do have at least 3 partners, so.....

Anyhow, here is my take

35%(group A) Size doesnt matter in the slightest for all intensive purposes
45%(group B) They "prefer" big enough to feel completely full, but if not, no worries.
15%(group C) They NEED to feel quite full.
5% (group E) size queen (Need to be filled and a whole lot more!)

I dont want to get into semantics about G-spots, hot spots in the vagina, size of vagina, etc. Lets just say that being full means a very snug/tight feeling around the penis for a sufficient "enough" depth. For some, that could be 5x4.5, and for others, 9x7.

Now, men who are insecure (or secure well hung macho-bacho men) will feel that 65% (45+15+5) of women think size is quite important. The insecure men might hear a completely honest woman from group B say, "7.5x5.5 is better(all else equal), but 5.5x4.5 will do just fine", and feel bad about it.

If men are secure, they might feel that 80% (45+35) of women dont care to a significant degree. Among the women who do care, some only need "6x5" to feel full enough anyway.

My numbers are HIGHLY debatable, but ASSUMING they are right, my conclusion is:

Even though size does clearly "matter" for the simple majority, a confident man will find that it only REALLY matters 20% of the time at MOST! This is how I feel personally.

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Wed, 03-29-2006 - 8:18pm

~If you go to this link, you can see actual MRI images of coitus.

http://bmj.bmjjournals.com/cgi/content/full/319/7225/1596

If you scroll down, you'll see the images. The penis glans is shaped on an angle so in missionary, the head sort of slips in place with the cervix(in an aroused woman it would be in a back, not up position). In doggie(where more women complain of discomfort) the glans is reversed, so it would seem that the point of the angle would be more in direct collision with the cervix(either in aroused position or not).

Some women have longer vaginas than others, and some have more sensitive cervixes than others(if you read the thread, you'd see that), which would explain why some "bottom out" and others do not. Some may just not go in any further because there's no more room, but not feel pain because their cervix isn't very sensitive, and yet others may be able to accommodate more length, and yet feel discomfort. There are too many variables, including amount of arousal(see other posts on this thread) to draw any definite conclusions.~

I agee totally, and this is why i advocate fit. Some women really really care about fit, others can easily work around not having a perfect fit. Again, I would like to re-iterate that there is no perfect size or shape and every couple fits with each other differently. Some women NEED fit, and for them, fit means 8+. Thats fine, but when you break it down, not all women NEED a perfect fit, and even those few who do, a good fit means 5.5+!

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Registered: 03-26-2003
Thu, 03-30-2006 - 9:46am

There is no way of knowing what kind of fit one will have with a prospective lover though. It's a toss of the dice.

I disagree that any woman "NEEDS" 8". She may desire it, just a man might desire 38D breasts, but both can manage quite nicely without them IF they want to and there is more than physical attraction going on.

If there are deeper feelings involved, I hardly think that a bad "fit" would be the sole reason to call the whole thing off. No, there are too many other factors involved in sexual satisfaction and being happy in and out of bed.

It's no coincidence that the average vagina is 5-6" in depth and the average penis is the same.

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Mon, 04-03-2006 - 12:39am

~I disagree that any woman "NEEDS" 8".~

"need" is an interesting word and a confusing one in our soceity. Most of my friends make 100,000 plus a year, but most of them SWEAR that they NEED more to "survive". Technically speaking, most of us dont "need" 90% of what we have, but we still claim to "need" it. So, the women who do "need" 8 inchers, do in fact need it in their minds. In my opinion, because they shouldnt need 8 inches, and my friends shouldnt need to make 200,000 a year, but they do.

When women say they will dump an otherwise fantastic man for being only average in penis size,those women "need" a large man.

~It's no coincidence that the average vagina is 5-6" in depth and the average penis is the same.~

I agree, but if some women think average just wont do for them, then, oh well.

~If there are deeper feelings involved, I hardly think that a bad "fit" would be the sole reason to call the whole thing off. ~

sadly enough it happens. this is why many men are so concious about it. I have heard this happen a few times. It isnt the RULE, but it isnt really the exception either. The current dating world is immature and confusing, especially if you are mid twenties living in LA.

Anyhow, this is the purpose of my post. Men should listen to you because only 20% of the women out there are women that "care" about fit.

~a man might desire 38D breasts, but both can manage quite nicely without them IF they want to and there is more than physical attraction going on.~
This is also interesting. I have heard women say "men shouldnt care about breasts becasue breast dont do anything, but it is completely fair for us women to want a large man becasue the penis size actually counts" I dont know.

Again, this stuff happens. I know you dont feel this way katmandoo, and that is why you are in group A along with Tish.

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Registered: 04-17-2003
Mon, 04-03-2006 - 11:11am

As a man, i have to say it's very silly for a man to be self conscious about it, since there's NOTHING YOU CAN DO about it.

I've said it before and I'll say it again, a Penis has only one requirement:

That it gets hard.

I'm neither big or small and I worry only about 2 things: That a woman smiles back at me and she laughs at my jokes. With those two things, I can do anything with my penis :)

 

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Mon, 04-03-2006 - 3:28pm
I agree with that. I just think it's one of those stubborn thorns of society that never seems to completely go away, like the size of a woman's breasts, which I could care less about.
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Mon, 04-03-2006 - 4:37pm
It's a given that one can wish all they want, but they will eventually have to deal with whatever their genetic code "blesses" them with having.
A person who is neither large or small, should consider themselves as fortunate.
If one is shackled with something that is either too large for comfortable intercourse with their chosen partner, it may well deter any relationship they may have hoped to have.
The same may be true if one is undersized.
This in no way should be considered as either won't find someone suitable.
It may just not be with the person they initially was hoping to be with.
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Mon, 04-03-2006 - 7:40pm

~As a man, i have to say it's very silly for a man to be self conscious about it, since there's NOTHING YOU CAN DO about it.

I've said it before and I'll say it again, a Penis has only one requirement:

That it gets hard.

I'm neither big or small and I worry only about 2 things: That a woman smiles back at me and she laughs at my jokes. With those two things, I can do anything with my penis :)~

Cerryl, you make a lot of sense.

Just like one of my favorite quotes

"If the problem can be solved, then what's the worry?
If a problem cant be solved, then why worry about it?"

Unfortunately, many of us are insecure about something. Some things we can change, some things we cant, etc. If I had it my way, I would make it so no one was insecure about anything.

For me personally, there was a time that I was really insecure about my size, but that is no longer the case, at least for now. I will tell you, asking people for their honest opinions was a no win situation at the time. People that assured me it didnt matter didnt cheer me up, because I guess i didnt let myself be secure about it at the time?? People that told me it is important in general made me feel more inadequate. It was a no win situation for me back then. To be honest, that is the real issue here. The answer really doesnt matter that much. If a man is comfortable with his size no matter how big or small he is, then who cares what some women or men say! If a man is self concious about it, nothing said will change his mind on the matter. Anyhow....

Why do I make this post then? I made this post to show that there will ALWAYS be women who care and women who dont and some in between. It is what it is. For men who are insecure, they feel most women care, for ones who are comfortable, they feel most women dont, and those who do, who cares! In a way the post I made parallels my train of thought going from being insecure to being secure (although i only cared about size for about 5 months of my entire life immediately following not so good experiences).

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Mon, 04-03-2006 - 8:50pm

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Tue, 04-04-2006 - 4:54am

"~As a man, i have to say it's very silly for a man to be self conscious about it, since there's NOTHING YOU CAN DO about it."

That seems like such a defeatist attitude. You just have to be more creative. We know that not all women have the same prefernces and are not the same size. With that in mind, you may not be able to change your size, but you can change the women. Find a women who prefers what you have. Ha, problem solved. :)

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Registered: 04-17-2003
Tue, 04-04-2006 - 10:26am

I will admit that from time to time when me and my DW are watching porn, I get a bit insecure at times but that's because I'm actually enjoying looking at their 'members' and get a bit of envy.

As my DW puts it to me: Men are usually more concerned about the body, where as women are more concerned about the face, eyes, smile.

Myself, I'd enjoy a retractable penis very much. Livin large for the Intercourse and smaller for the anal/oral :)

 

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