Penis!

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Registered: 12-27-2003
Penis!
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Fri, 07-01-2005 - 1:34pm

Hi, I've never posted on this board before, but I thought this was appropriate for this board.


Scientific studies seemed to have more objectivity in determining the average length of a man's penis.

 

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iVillage Member
Registered: 04-04-2005
In reply to: jman75
Sun, 07-10-2005 - 5:23pm

"I think YOUR wife sees things as they really are, blonde. She sees beyond the physical and maybe, when the love is real, the physical aspect of sex becomes much less important. I know that's the case within my marriage. If my DH lost his penis to cancer or became completely impotent, he knows I'm there for the long haul."

Thanks Kat. That's the case in alot of marriages. It's not that the physical aspect isn't important - it is - we have a great sex life. It takes some imagination and skills to please any lover long term or it can become the same old, same old. It's just that there is a metaphysical aspect to love that transcends alot of perceived barriers. Example: Romeo and Juliet - different warring clans yet their love transcended hatred. (As a side note - I wonder how many American men are going to come home with Iraqi wives? It sure happened in Vietnam.) So YES love is THE major factor. Which is why been-there is going to such lengths to please his wife. He loves her so he wants to please her more. My wife loves me JUST AS I AM and I think that's the way I'd like it to be. If other guys want to do the same as been-there, hey more power to them. I won't knock it. I've tried it and it HURT so I quit. I wanted to please my wife more too out of love for her so I gave it a shot. I told her what I was up to and she said, "It's not that big a deal to me. I can't feel that much way up in there anyway. My body has adjusted to your size and it's just fine." Women are amazing that way - most CAN and WILL adjust to their man's size over time and then it really is NOT that big a deal. Again, thanks for the support Kat. We're swimming upstream here you know.

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Registered: 07-05-2005
In reply to: jman75
Sun, 07-10-2005 - 5:31pm
More power to you blond. I mean that. You are inspiring no doubt. I was just wondering about the desperate and suicide posts at your site that couldn't seem to mentally get past their small sizes, and seemed so very sad. Why wouldn't they embrace a chance to grow physically under such a case?
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Registered: 04-04-2005
In reply to: jman75
Sun, 07-10-2005 - 9:36pm

Thank you been-there. I honestly do my best to help other guys get over their head trips about their size - but it's not my site. The owner asked me to be a moderator based on my positive comments to guys in the same boat as he and I. And you are right - alot of guys have a very tough time mentally dealing with their smaller size. But you have to realize that a few of the moderators there do PE exercises themselves and encourage other guys to try it as well. There's nothing wrong with that - heck, I tried it. (I just read a study published by Brirtish urologists that PE surgeries have the same successes as PE exercises.) Does it work? Obviously so. In my case it just HURT so much I quit after 5 or 6 months. Did I see gains? Yes indeed, I got quite a bit longer both flaccid and erect. It was a noticeable difference for sure.

Case in point - one day when I was running some women in a car stopped to ask me directions and they both stared (mesmerized) at my crotch the whole time I was talking to them. This was something I'd NEVER experienced before, even when I was on the swim team and wore a wet Speedo. Folks had always just glanced and then looked me in the eye as we talked. Now for the first time some women STARED at my equipment as I talked to them. Did I like this? No, not really. It was novel at first but soon it made me feel like a piece of meat - probably like women feel when guys stare at their chest and not in their eyes as they talk to them. It was NOT an ego boost for me.

See ... I am NOT my penis size. It does not define who I am. THAT is the point of the site I'm at overall. All of us guys are so much more as a man (and as a person) than the size of what's hanging between your legs. Now if you want more than what you've been blessed with - hey give PE a try. It may be exactly the ticket for you and your lady-love. It does work. The point I want to get into guys heads is you are 100% male just as you are. If I had not come to accept my size I would have NEVER been able to get past my first naked swimming lessons when I was 10 yo at the YMCA (which was the way things were done back then. Let boys see other boys their own age naked too and they will see how they each "stack up" to their peers AND that it's all good.) I accepted it then and I accept it now. No fear in the locker room, bathroom or bedroom. Am I every woman's cup of tea sexually speaking? Heck no. Have I had lots of incredibly cool gfs along the way? Yes. That's my point - don't let hang ups or past hurts keep you from living your life to the fullest. No matter what the source is - physical, mental, emotional, or even bad past history. Does it take effort? Hail yes. But what's the alternative? Fold the deck and quit playing the game of life? Doesn't THAT choice ultimately define one's manhood (or womanhood?)

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Registered: 12-20-2004
In reply to: jman75
Mon, 07-11-2005 - 8:31am
<<>>>>Her point was what I explained...most women cant tell the difference between a 5" penis or an 8" penis ,unless the 8" penis is hitting something. For her ,as long as it isnt hitting anything, length really doesnt matter(TO HER..)But she does like the way a girthy penis feels. The real point here is people and their likes and dislikes are different.
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Registered: 07-05-2005
In reply to: jman75
Mon, 07-11-2005 - 11:42am

I wasn't going to post anymore about penis enlargement (PE), but rain asked an open mined nice question, and so I posted because it's unusual to see someone out of the loop ask an open ended question. Humpdaddy make a remark about penis enlargement, and so I posted. I may have posted other even after I said I wasn't-not sure.

Anyway, since I'm not going to visit this forum anymore, I want to take this time to defend PE.

Humpdaddy's recent post about being sold bs and his holier than thou attitude comment to tug if it makes me feel better is typical of a response PEers get. Kat's remarking like we have some code secret handshake type stuff is plain ridiculious. Even if she was just kidding about that, the mindset is evident.

What happens is mainstream has taught you PE doesn't work. So when you folks first hear about it, you shout bs. Then after time you hear more and hear from some adament person who say it works, so then you say well maybe it works to gain a bit but PEers get injured.
Then after time you hear that PEers are gaining good, but then you say well maybe they gain some and maybe they don't usually get injured, but the gains don't outweigh the risks. Then after time you hear their are very good gainers that haven't been injured, so then folks intensify (something you have more quietly said all along also) the mind over matter, or/and the size doesn't matter side of it.

So from the get go mainstream taught closed minded folks have been saying things concerning PE that's not so, then as these folks learn a bit more they continue to adjust their view vut are always still way off about it all because they are speaking out of ignorance about the subject.

The condensending attitudes people have about the PE forum I belong to is uncalled for. There are some of the kindest, most intelligent people one could ever meet there. To those that think it's about money at this forum--wrong (again). There is never any spam, banners, popups, and there is no charge whatsoever. It does cost him money out of his own pocket many months to pay the server, and so if someone wants to donate a few dollars he will usually accept it. I said 'usually'because I've seen people post that he had sent the money back to them. For instance, a college member had been there for a long time, but feeling he should donate some money, he sent the PE site owner a small donation. The owner sent it back to him telling him to use it for living while going to school. This is typical of the site owner. I've had a donation sent back to me before. He said I had donated enough that year (and it wasn't much at all that I had donated).

Humpdaddy chose to latch onto the length argument and ignore that PE is also about girth. I mentioned I had gained in girth also. I said I was pre PE 4 1/2 mid shaft and 4 3/4 base shaft. I said my wife wants more length and much more girth. Humpdaddy ignored this and chose to talk down to me as a foolish PEer that just doesn't understand life. So he told me to tug for foolish length, but didn't bother to encourage me to gain the mighty girth that he himself admits matters to women. I fully understand girth is a good thing for many women. I haven't said this at this forum before, but I'll say it now, I had an ex gf call me pencil dick when she was mad at me one day. Painful as could be. So I know all to well. In fact, many PEers just concentrate on girth, even though they realise it may severly hamper any future length gains. Many feel that they have enough length already, and are not so interested in the cul de sac. Others feel they want girth badly enough that they go for girth to begin with and wil take their chances on length gaining later. There are reports by married men of their long time gfs indeed having stronger reactions and stronger orgasms from cds stimulation when he became longer. There are also reports by men saying she isn't really responding to the extra length--they can't tell any difference as far as that is concerned. See, I have belief in it working for my wife because she said that it wasn't just the extra thickness, which she admits to loving, but that indeed she felt the great deep internal sensation fronm longer than me. I sometimes wish I didn't know all this about her previous lovelife, but I do. So it's not just for me.
Yes, I do PE for myself also- I'm shallow like that.

Muttley hollored for me to shut up. He knew all to well what was going to happen. Ignorant statements after ignorant statements, and attitudes after attitudes. People go to the gym and exercise their bodies, not just for the health benefits, but also to look better and feel better about themselves. I don't see them getting talked down to, though I suppose it wouldn't surprise me if that happens also with this -mind conquers all and anyone putting any attention to the physical is just not thinking on an evolved enough level- outlook about things.

Ligaments get stretched in sports--mainstream acknowledgement. Yet when it comes to the penis, mainstream thinks the penis can't grow, ignoring that it's attached by ligaments. In fact, ligament work is the faster easier part to PE, though not easy. The tunica is tougher, but will usually respond in time.

I've seen too many posts by PEers that justify their desire to be bigger. Some just do it for themselves, some do it for themselves and the women. Many have been hurt badly along the way numerous times, but heaven forbid they take a physical way to help themselves. Afterall, we're just some stupid dick pulling cult that meets when the moon is bright and for hardly any gain and ambulances waiting to haul us off to the hospital for our injuries and then afterwards to the psychiatrist for our inabilty to understand it's a waste of time and that the mind solves all difficulties. A very very small percentage suffer an injury, and it's usually because they didn't follow safty guidelines. I've never been injured, and tons of others haven't either.

Really learn something about PE before you blah blah about it.

iVillage Member
Registered: 07-05-2005
In reply to: jman75
Mon, 07-11-2005 - 11:50am

correction-

Where I wrote there are reports by married men of their longtime gfs, I meant ..."or men with longtime gfs."

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Registered: 03-26-2003
In reply to: jman75
Mon, 07-11-2005 - 4:02pm

Of course sex is important in a marriage, blonde, but it's not the most important aspect of a relationship. Yes, it's what makes a marriage different than any other "love" relationship we have. But there still has to be balance between the physical and emotional or there will be problems.

If my DH was doing these "exercises" and focusing so intently on his size, based on something I or any other woman had said or done, I would encourage him to stop. And if he couldn't, I would suggest therapy.

Becoming obsessed about anything isn't healthy.

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Registered: 01-11-2004
In reply to: jman75
Mon, 07-11-2005 - 8:43pm

Hi Kat:

"I can understand the desire to be bigger if they feel inadequate though."

A person can sit around and feel sorry for themselves; or make the best of what they were issued. Since I (only) have a 4 inch penis, I learned to be a better lover. I studied cunnilingus, sensual massage, etc.
In school gym class, I took the attitude that the Almighty and my family gave me the BODY/PENIS.
Mac

 

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Registered: 12-20-2004
In reply to: jman75
Tue, 07-12-2005 - 10:07am
Been said hes not going to visit this site again, but just in case he does ;)..I have some enlightenment for him.......
First off I know PE works.. I have a friend who did the exercises and gained an inch and a half.
Second...No one can make you feel badly about yourself but you.. That is a life lesson only life experience teaches.
I find it honorable that you desperatly want to please your wife sexually..It is a very noble thing to aspire to. My comments about women and length was in reference to your comments that what women really want was a long thick penis..And that simply isnt true with "MOST" women....
You see, that woman who called you pencil dick, may have had many thick penises, but for some women you are exactly the right size they enjoy...She was just a rude woman who should know better...how would she had felt if you had responded with "yeah ok canyon C*nt..you are probably way to classy to have said that..but you see what I mean...One womans dislike is another womans ecstacy.
The reason it doesnt REALLY matter in the long run, is that if it were just size that women wanted , then no man would ever please "ALL" women..And that is a fact..no man will ever have a penis that is ok for all women..If you are big you will be too big for some women and if you are smaller then you will not be the size that other women want...
So my question is ...does your wife have orgasms?..are they good strong ones?..If so then you have plenty of penis..if she isnt cumming through intercourse(as many women dont) then become very good at oral sex...Not too many women will complain if thay are having orgasms, not matter how they are achieved.
Good luck and no hard feelings..
iVillage Member
Registered: 07-05-2005
In reply to: jman75
Tue, 07-12-2005 - 2:26pm

Humpdaddy, good questions that I could answer, but that's not why I'm here. I just want to respond and say no hard feelings here either. You are right, there is someone for everyone. If it wasn't for women like on this forum I probably would think all women desire bigger at least on some level, but they help keep things in check. Good luck to everyone here.

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