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| Fri, 07-01-2005 - 1:34pm |
Hi, I've never posted on this board before, but I thought this was appropriate for this board.
Scientific studies seemed to have more objectivity in determining the average length of a man's penis.

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C'mon dude! You just have to make sure the doctor studies are comparing apples to apples.
We're talking about weiners here, not exactly the mystery of the universe.
John ---- \_/
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> Also, since most women do not orgasm from penetration alone, and require direct clitoral stimulation to do so, then a man would still need to consider his manual abilities, yes, even during intercourse.
I read here time and time again how most women (70%?) need clitorial stimulation during penetration to orgasm. I also read it's not the size of the ship, but the motion of the ocean, technique, etc. So, what's going on? Why all the talk about too big or too little which we can't do much about, and almost no talk about technique to help a lady?
I've had a LOT of partners, and while diddling with a clitoris is fun and exciting for a guy, 99% of women can orgasm without direct clitorial stimulation. There are many books in common book stores which describe countless techniques to excite, allow a woman to anticipate, and reach her fantastic orgasmic potential. The woman wins empowerment and the guy's favorite toy gets praised. Maybe you can start a new technique thread?
I'm just pointing that the sexual playing field is a little more even now. Men are feeling the pressure to measure up to physical standards and they don't like it any more than women do. Fair or not, that's the world we live in. But you can choose to participate in the game or not. Like yourself...I opted out.
Edited 7/5/2005 7:11 pm ET ET by katmandoo2001
In the final analysis, women are different than men and intercourse is not the most efficient way to bring one to orgasm. The male organ and male viewpoint do not define sexuality for all. There are two sides to this coin.
You're talking as if the clitoris is a secondary sexual organ...it's not. It's THE female sexual organ, all female pleasure originates from there.
And IF your claim is that 99.9% of women you know are orgasming without clitoral stimulation, then my guess is that they're faking. Sorry.
OR they have figured out how to respond to indirect stimulation or get and maintain direct contact through angles and positions. But the clitoris is still the source of that pleasure.
Most women orgasm easily through clitoral manipulation and the clitoris has no other purpose but to provide pleasure. Does it make any sense to you that it should be ignored after foreplay?
Edited 7/5/2005 6:49 pm ET ET by katmandoo2001
>>C'mon dude! You just have to make sure the doctor studies are comparing apples to apples.<<
Yeah, that's the problem though. They can't be comparing apples to apples. If one study gets 6.5" as average and another gets 5.5" as average then obviously we're not comparing apples. So which one is it?
Maybe THAT is the mystery? Which method do they all use?
HI RAIN_DANCER_IAM;
"I can't imagine a man ever having a reason to "announce" his size to a woman...and I can't imagine any woman asking. tee hee It just boggles my mind."
I have been reading this thread. Some (not all) of the woman might "require" THE PENIS measurement. Of course, dating (in the 1970's) seemed alot simpler. NOT one woman I dated asked for my penis measurement. They wanted to have fun and get out.
Mac
"I'm just pointing that the sexual playing field is a little more even now. Men are feeling the pressure to measure up to physical standards and they don't like it any more than women do. Fair or not, that's the world we live in."
Yes Kat, you are indeed correct on this. I have alot of female friends and they relate conversations amongst themselves and their female friends to me and amongst women sex comes up often as a topic of conversation and so does a guy's size. "I won't even go out with a guy again unless he has ___ inches." etc. If you're a guy dating today then alot of her female friends already know your size at the next party she takes you to. Or so I'm told. Not in exact figures (that's a guy thing) but her girl friends will know if you're "small" "average" or "big" most likely. Breast size has probably always been the thing women have been physically judged on most. Now the shoe is on the other foot for us guys and only the "big" guys enjoy this game - and not all of them do at that. "I don't know if she's dating me because she really likes me or because of my size?" some of my "big" friends lament. That whole way of thinking is pretty impersonal. Like the Tina Turner song "What's Love got to do with it?"
I guess I'm too much of romantic at heart. For me love has EVERYTHING to do with it. If I love her I don't care if she's tall, short, blonde, brunette, pretty, average, busty or flat. I love her for who she is on the inside. Period. And I'm looking for a woman who thinks just like that too. With love we can work out the details in life and in bed.
"For me, love has everything to do with it." Absolutely agree.
But women have always talked to one another about men and sex. Now, though, the objectification seems to go both ways. That's sad.
>>Men are feeling the pressure to measure up to physical standards and they don't like it any more than women do.<<
I may be a masochist, but I like it. Mind you, I think I'm a flabby 40 year old who's just got done with his second divorce and, frankly, I'm too old to get into the dating game again. Having said that, I do like to see women's reactions and hear their compliments on certain "superficial" qualities though.
And I am amazed about the things you women talk about amongst yourselves!
Kat, whether or not the point of origination is the clitoris, the fact is that there are women who derrive pleasure from penetration with or without clitoral stimulation. The vagina is also a sexual organ(and whether or not it's the main source of pleasure for some women is to be determined by each individual), whether it's due to it's own sexual components or the result of clitoral branches, there are still sensors located WITHIN the vagina that could only be stimulated by penetration, therefore the vagina is, for some women(and maybe even be a primary), a pleasure zone for them.
Edited 7/6/2005 11:02 am ET ET by rain_dancer_iam
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