Speaking of breasts....
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| Thu, 10-21-2004 - 9:22pm |
The family and I went to a huge Renaissance Festival last weekend (loads of fun, BTW) and you wanna talk about breasts on display! Brittney and Janet have nothing on them, lol. With many RenFair goers in costume (including us) in the Ren style of low cut chemise, overskirt and pushup bodices, we saw breasts galore. Big ones, small ones, fat ones, round ones, pink ones, tan ones...even one pair that passed several times, causing my mother to remark that they 'looked like yeast rolls before being baked'. Mightily impressive.
Just goes to show you, modesty is everchanging. In those days (having done my research for costuming weeks before we went), breasts were prominently displayed - but no one, not even the poorest woman - would go out without stockings on!

>>The family and I went to a huge Renaissance Festival....we saw breasts galore.<<
I certainly can see the appeal of bodices and breasts on display. Makes me feel all warm just thinking about it. Lucky you for seeing it. Wish I'd been there ;-)
>>no one, not even the poorest woman - would go out without stockings on!<<
Hmmmmm. I can readily admit that I'm a sucker for stockings. I'm putty when I see a woman in stockings. 'Twas a sad day when pantyhose were invented.
Yes, I can recall reading about a period in history, when it was fashionable for the breasts to be completely exposed.....at least among the aristocrats.
We have an annual Scarborough Fair and it's the same thing. Breasts bulging out everywhere.
Edited 10/22/2004 1:23 am ET ET by katmandoo2001
Up until say, 60 years ago, women had to rely on their beauty to attract a man. And assets such as breasts were used as an advantage. (OK, perhaps the Victorian women covered up more). Just think of all the Jane Austen women and their low cut tops with busty cleavage.
What I find interesting is that many Westerners, upon seeing cleavage, now say things such as "oh, she must have low self esteem to show herself so sexually". However, I don't believe that humans can evolve that quickly. If women have had to rely on beauty for thousands of years, how can we expect all women to change their attitudes in such a short amount of time? I would argue the fact that nature dictates women use their assets, because this is how human females have had to evolved over many thousands of years.
It will be interesting to see the long term effects of women's lib on the future of the human race.
But I don't think there's anything wrong with using your assets as a woman, when needed. After all, isn't that men do to get ahead? And if the targeted man or men, are allowing themselves to be unduly influenced by those assets....well, that's a choice, too, isn't it?
Kat said:
>>And if the targeted man or men, are allowing themselves to be unduly influenced by those assets....well, that's a choice, too, isn't it?<<
Hear, hear! There have been plenty of times where young women have tried to use their womanly wiles and physical assets to influence my judgement. I certainly don't think that I'm the only guy that they've ever tried to influence either. Perhaps I am just a little more aware of it than other guys.
I say that if you've got it, flaunt it. God knows that most good looking guys are well aware of the influence their attractiveness can have. I can't see why people get so upset about it. It's just another string to the bow in my opinion and if it can help you get along in life, then why not?
Oh no they wouldn't....lol, why do you think the Wonderbra was invented ;)
Actually it's all just about standards changing throughout history. Men used to wear tights that showed their all, but with heavy long-sleeved doublets. Women could show the tops of breasts but not an ankle or wrist. Women wearing trousers and outlining their legs was unthinkable -and yet when Empire dresses were fashionable, women used to soak their chemises in water and let them dry while wearing them, to cling to the body. We've been through Elizabethan corsets and Victorian corsets, bustles, hoops, everything to shape a woman's body in every form but a natural one.
And yet today, no one thinks twice about a woman wearing shorts (how scandalous, exposing the entire leg!) or tank tops that show the entire arm. And there are plenty of breasts on display even now. Not to mention, tushes peeking out of lowriders. I wasn't really trying to make a point at all, or suggest we go back to going naked (although my ancestors in New England probably never went completely naked, lol) but just talking about breasts and the display of them, and how it goes back and forth through history, especially in view of all the cleavage I saw that weekend.
>>but just talking about breasts and the display of them, and how it goes back and forth through history,<<
Same, same, but different....
I had to laugh when I saw the penis carved into the footpath stones outside a brothel in Pompeii. It was a multi-lingual sign to say "This is the Brothel". Thousands of years ago they had the same things, wanted to say the same things, and really nothing has changed much - just a slightly different way of showing it.
Edited 10/22/2004 7:41 pm ET ET by westridge2001