Vaginas: size and variation

iVillage Member
Registered: 06-08-2004
Vaginas: size and variation
42
Tue, 07-06-2004 - 4:53pm
I'm starting this conversation after reading humpdaddy's poll below about "how much penis is too much?" It's interesting, because it does vary. The popular official answer that experts give about women's anatomy is that vaginas are pretty much created equal and vary in size very little. They'll demonstrate that a vagina can stretch tremendously as in childbirth and then shrink again.

But, if you ask a man that has had a few lovers, he KNOWS that women vary in size and capacity as much as men's penises vary in size...and we all know that men do vary in size quite a bit. Quoting humpdaddy: "In my experience vaginas come in different depths just as penises come in different lengths."

I know this from talking to other women, too. I have a friend who told me (embarrassed) that if a penis isn't huge, she almost can't even feel it, and the only penises that satisfy her are enormous. (She had two vaginal births.) I'm the opposite. Although I'm 5'6" and not small-boned (more like average in overall size), I'm very tight and small down there. (I've had one c-section birth so no baby has passed through.) Men have exclaimed about the tightness several times in my sexual experience. My hubby, most especially. I never knew this about myself (or ever would have thought it) until former boyfriends said it. The first time we made love, he looked amazed and wide-eyed and said, "You are as tight as an 18 year old!" He still comments on it to this day. His ex's vagina was loose/bigger.

So, I've wondered for years...does childbirth sometimes, or maybe often, change a woman's vaginal size? Often, breasts sag after nursing, we all know that. What about the other?

I wonder if some young women and/or never-had-babies women sometimes have bigger vaginal canals, too?

iVillage Member
Registered: 12-24-2003
Thu, 07-08-2004 - 10:09am
gingermommy777, if I'm asking something too personal, please don't answer, but I'm curious. When you say bigger is better, can you pick up a ruler and say what xxx number of inches long and xxx number of inches wide would feel like a good fit?
iVillage Member
Registered: 06-08-2004
Thu, 07-08-2004 - 5:20pm
To all.....this has been very interesting! It looks like there's a consensus that childbirth has no effect (at least among this group) of vagina size. Some women are just looser or larger, even before children. This goes along with the "real" stories I have heard from both men and women I've known. I feel it's a myth that women are nearly all the same basic size on the inside and that we just automatically fit nicely around anything that goes in. My friend I described in the first post, who told me how she can't even feel it unless the penis is huge, was a young woman, much younger than me.

Humpdaddy, thanks for the male point of view. It would be nice to hear from even more men, too.

iVillage Member
Registered: 10-09-2003
Thu, 07-08-2004 - 8:11pm
Just a note(after reading about your YOUNG friend).....

I had sex for the first time when I was 16. He was a **very** well-hung man. I never felt anything for a few months after we began having sex. Nothing, nada, zip, zilch...and the main reason was lack of arousal and over lubrication. I was new to sex and in hindsight, not ready for it. Not until we became more relaxed and knowledgeable did we finally "feel" each other. I say each other, because whatever the man or woman feels, most likely the other is feeling as well. He was the largest man I'd ever been with, and the others were average(not small), and the feelings was tight as ever because I was properly aroused enough(not just slightly). I've had two easy vaginal births, and I breast-fed both of my children and I'm as tight as ever and my breasts don't sag. As big as my DH is, there are still occasional times(if I'm not too aroused and there's too much lubrication) that I won't feel him. I didn't all of a sudden become loose. Because an hour later, it's as tight as ever. It's not any different than a man who isn't fully erect....he's not at his full potential. He'd not only not be felt by the woman, but he wouldn't have much sensation either.

I think that there are many factors that would make a normal(not damaged) vagina "appear" loose. Unarousal, over lubrication, and a not fully erect penis, are probably the most likely culprits.

The six men I've been with were of all different sizes and widths, and none of them "changed" the size of my vagina. If I didn't date my first for 2 more years after we first had sex, he probably would have thought I was a loose woman(even though he was my first). It was just inexperience. As big as he was, he didn't "stretch" me out for my subsequent lovers. Estrogen is the hormone responsible for vaginal elasticity...I just figured I have a good amount....otherwise my DH's girth would have made me the bottomless pit by now! ;-)

iVillage Member
Registered: 06-08-2004
Fri, 07-09-2004 - 5:23pm
Hi, thanks for sharing that!

Just to clarify this: "Just a note(after reading about your YOUNG friend).....

I had sex for the first time when I was 16..."

My friend wasn't *that* young. She was younger than me, though. She was 30 at the time she told me that, had been married and divorced, and had a history of quite a few partners. She said it was the same with all the men she'd been with, except for the two very huge ones she told me about.

Thanks. :)

iVillage Member
Registered: 10-09-2003
Fri, 07-09-2004 - 6:10pm
EDITED: Ooops "Some women are just looser or larger, even before children. This goes along with the "real" stories I have heard from both men and women I've known. I feel it's a myth that women are nearly all the same basic size on the inside and that we just automatically fit nicely around anything that goes in. My friend I described in the first post, who told me how she can't even feel it unless the penis is huge, was a young woman, much younger than me."

Well...you specified "YOUNG woman" and women's vagina's pre-childbirth....both indicating(generally speaking), fairly young woman...(bad assumption on my part).

I don't think that the female anatomy, both in living specimens and cadavas would lie about the fact that most women's vagina's are basically the same size. Of course, there's lack of estrogen(elasticity) and injury to consider,which may have very well have been the case with your friend. There are always exceptions to the rule, but honestly, I think if it were THAT common, we'd certainly hear men AND women complaining an awful lot. As I said, what a woman feels a man feels. If anything, the proof is in the pudding....as I understand it, most men on average orgasm within three to five minutes of intercourse...logically, that wouldn't be the case if most penises(or is that peni) weren't receiving the correct stimuli. IN fact, that would probably put most men on the "can't orgasm from intercourse" wagon. Nope, I still agree with the medical findings, that most vaginas are created equal in size(with the exceptions of injury and lack of estrogen.







Edited 7/9/2004 6:45 pm ET ET by free_to_choose

Visitor (not verified)
anonymous user
Fri, 07-09-2004 - 8:06pm
sorry free I dont buy it ..Ive conducted my own study......lol..its been my experience that vaginas ,like penises , come in different depths and widths. My male friends who are experienced will most likely agree. Look at the poll, some say 7" is too long for them while some say 10+..hummm I wonder why?
iVillage Member
Registered: 04-13-2004
Fri, 07-09-2004 - 8:09pm
Life experiences often determine what is true.
iVillage Member
Registered: 10-09-2003
Fri, 07-09-2004 - 8:39pm
Oh, no doubt, there is a variance in depth, not width.
iVillage Member
Registered: 10-09-2003
Fri, 07-09-2004 - 8:58pm
Well...humpdaddy said he only had "two" women that he experienced this with. I still say they were most likely NOT aroused properly. The first stages of arousal is lubrication and opening of the vagina. With further arousal the surrounding walls of the vagina swell up and cause the last third to almost close, which would make it tighter. Additionally, if humpdaddy had stuck his finger inside of any of these women in an UNAROUSED state, he'd probably had felt his finger all snuggly and warm and wet(which is normal), not the grand canyon as his post suggests(unless of course these women had low estrogen or damaged vaginas). A woman can have a clitoral orgasm without EVER getting fully aroused. So, if the vagina never reached the engorged state, then the arousal was only slight(opened vagina, the last third didn't close), and the lubrication was probably plentiful creating lack of friction, or sense of looseness. That's the breaks when you have an organ that is flexible and moist.(who would complain about too much lube!)




Edited 7/9/2004 9:04 pm ET ET by free_to_choose

iVillage Member
Registered: 10-09-2003
Fri, 07-09-2004 - 8:59pm
P.S. Not for nothing, but humpdaddy is a little too fixated on size, girth, width, and length of both the vagina and penis. Something seems fishy. ;-)