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Why are facials degrading?
| Sun, 08-06-2006 - 8:28pm |
I have seen many posts that describe facials as degrading to a woman. Why is that? I've always asked a partner if I could cum on her body before I did it, and wouldn't do it without permission. What is it, though, that makes a facial particularly objectionable? I don't see where it's any more degrading than cumming in her mouth, or on her breasts, etc.

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Well....I know for a fact that my daughter looks at porn, something that a woman of only a few years back would have been mortified to have been "found" out about. My daughters also have no problems discussing masturbation, something else that women would have never "let out of the bag."
"...but I have to wonder how it is that behavior patterns that have existed for tens of thousands of years could change so dramatically within the space of only a couple of generations."
Of course the biggest emancipator was the birth of oral contraceptives (1960). Since the beginning of time, the fear of pregancy dictated most of women's sexuality (why not men's I'm still confused though since they were at least 50% responsible for unwanted pregnancies). Even within a marriage, women shunned away from sex because of fear of pregnancy.
Rice, I am beginning to agree with you, that you are a lost cause. Your first paragraph about never having had a woman come up to you and kiss you passionately is obviously enough to see from where you form your views. If a woman never kissed you passionately (including your wife), then I can pretty much say that you have been with women who had issues (most likely conditional).
Your statement about women "giving" it up also suprises me, as you yourself in just the post prior to this, said that you never said that women didn't enjoy sex. Whether or not I or my husband is the initiator is of no matter (in fact, I rarely pay attention)--what matters is the response. Just because I or he does not have sex on our mind 24/7 does not mean that we are not sexual. Sex could be the farthest thing from my mind one minute, and then something he does just triggers it, and so I'll act. Does that mean that he isn't sexual just because he didn't think of it first or isn't thinking about sex constantly? I do not see how it could be viewed as "giving" it up either. Giving it up would be "surrendering" something that you do NOT want to give, I'd think.
Well...I think it's despicable to stand up anyone....and my daughters would never do such a thing. What does that tell you about those girls/women? They're princesses, obviously. ;-) Your sons should look at it as a blessing because they would have only wasted time on someone not worthy of them.
I only have daughters, but I have a lot of nephews, all of which ages run from 9 - 34 and they have never had problems getting dates with women. Even my 14 year-old nephew is inundated with girls calling him and emailing him--same with my nephews in their early and late 20's. They are such good catches as well, so much so that they could be players if they wanted to be; but so far, they are one-woman men. My brother never had any problems getting dates either, and neither did my husband or his brothers....so again, our different worlds are bringing our different perspectives. If anything, I often hear about how "forward" girls of today are.
Rice, do not joke about being "polite." My daughters are very attractive and they have boys/men ask them out all of the time, but the one thing that they would never do (like their mother) is date an "impolite" jerk. Don't ever let them compromise their "good" qualities for any woman.
...oh, Howard Stern? Yep, the BIGGEST jerk in New York. (I don't listen to him, but I had a seminar a few days last week and I drove with someone who does.)
Edited 8/27/2006 7:40 pm ET by rain_dancer_iam
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