Why do some guys do this

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Why do some guys do this
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Thu, 11-17-2005 - 5:27pm

Okay, this really isn't a sex question but I guess more about attraction and I am just trying to figure out why some guys do this and some don't.

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Fri, 11-18-2005 - 2:14pm

Not necessarily. Certainly, men who want a supermodel might not appreciate a plainer woman, but there are plenty of plain men out there, as well, who will.

I've had many plain friends who never lacked for a partner because of who they were, not how they looked. That DOES come through the exterior of a confident woman.

And I think the random, fickle attention of strangers is overrated by women anyway. It only matters if you don't get enough attention at home.

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Fri, 11-18-2005 - 2:24pm

You can say that unattractive women get as much attention from men as a more attractive woman does all you want, but that doesn't make it so. No matter what their personality is or what confidence they exude, they won't generate male attention if they're not physically attractive.




Edited 11/18/2005 2:29 pm ET by tomorrows_child
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Fri, 11-18-2005 - 3:32pm

But I didn't SAY that they DO get "as much" attention as a very attractive woman though. I simply said that they aren't invisible to all men! Big difference.

And once again, you're using YOUR idea of what's attractive to judge that. My argument is that beauty is in the eye of the beholder. That's all.

One man's idea of beauty can be very different than the next. Flashy looks, cleavage, obvious attempts to catch male attention will work, no doubt, but that still doesn't discount the fact that men with different, more conservative or quirky tastes, might prefer something less obvious or traditionally attractive. And THAT I know to be fact.




Edited 11/18/2005 3:48 pm ET by katmandoo2001
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Fri, 11-18-2005 - 4:23pm

Why are you arguing with me? I know that beauty is in the eye of the beholder and that untraditional looking people do eventually find someone who thinks they are the cat's meow, but there are women who *never* get *any* male attention while out in public as *opposed* to a more traditional looking woman. And, yes, that's *never* - and I know this to be a fact.




Edited 11/18/2005 4:25 pm ET by tomorrows_child
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Fri, 11-18-2005 - 5:22pm

Who's arguing? I'm simply defending my words and position, just as YOU are.

And sorry, I don't believe that a woman will NEVER get any attention from men unless she purposely avoids it or doesn't want it.

But I guess we'll have to agree to disagree on that point.




Edited 11/18/2005 5:30 pm ET by katmandoo2001
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Fri, 11-18-2005 - 5:37pm
You're still arguing. You're trying to tell me that I don't know women who never get attention from men, when I do...and no, they don't purposely avoid it or don't want it(another assumption). So, yes, we will have to agree to disagree because you just don't believe(your own words) that what I say is possible.
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Fri, 11-18-2005 - 5:55pm

And your words to me...."just because you say it, doesn't make it so." So, who's arguing with whom here?

As I said, let's agree to disagree and end this pointless exchange.

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Fri, 11-18-2005 - 6:30pm
But, I said those words in defense to your *accusations* that it isn't so. I don't doubt *what you say* (that you don't know any woman who hasn't ever received male attention due to her unattractiveness)...but you don't give me the same courtesy and believe *what I say*(that there are women who have *never* received any male attention due to their unattractiveness). So again, "just because *you* say it *isn't* so, doesn't make it so."


Edited 11/18/2005 6:38 pm ET by tomorrows_child
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Fri, 11-18-2005 - 7:11pm

And just because you say it IS so, doesn't mean that it is, either-right back at ya. LOL!

Look, I never made any "accusations" toward you about anything you said. I expressed a different opinion than yours, that's all. So, maybe this is a perception issue more than an actual disagreement.

And you're right, I don't personally know any women, super attractive, average or less than average, who can't get male attention if they want it. Most every woman has breasts, a butt, legs, something that she feels good about and can showcase to get random male attention, if that's what she's looking for.

So, no, these women who are virtually "invisible" to all men are not something I have any experience with at all.

IF that's been your experience, I can acknowledge that.

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Fri, 11-18-2005 - 7:33pm

You begin your last post to me with: "And just because you say it IS so, doesn't mean that it is, either-right back at ya. LOL!"

then you end it with: "IF that's been your experience, I can acknowledge that."

accentuating the word *IF* as if you don't believe me and again repeating that just because I say it *IS* so, doesn't mean it is.

That's why I used the word *accusation* - because you didn't believe me - or in other words, calling me a liar.

LOL Right back atcha!




Edited 11/18/2005 7:36 pm ET by tomorrows_child