Is it possible?

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Registered: 05-29-2004
Is it possible?
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Sun, 10-28-2012 - 12:45pm

I came across some cases that puzzle and bother me.  Hope it's not too disturbing...

I read about a woman who was raped at a knife point and later reported to the police, only the court later dismissed the case.  The rapist videotaped the whole process, and in the tape it was shown that she reached an orgasm.  What’s more is that her hands were on his bottom pulling him into herself, and her pelvic was thrusting. Some reports (I suspect it was added by those who wrote the reports) even claimed that she screamed “I’m coming.” BTW, this happened in China.

Another case was a woman being gang-raped and having multiple orgasms.  She was reportedly “not thinking clearly enough to not resist the natural temptation to pull him in during orgasm.”

I know perfectly it’s possible for rape victims to experience orgasms during rape (and it leads to worse humiliation).  But I’m not sure if what happened in these 2 cases is really true.  Will the victims do such things (i.e., pulling rapist’s bottom into herself, even screaming “I’m coming?”)?  Wouldn’t the victim feel too aversive to touch the rapist?

If that really can happen, I’m very sorry for the victims.  This DEFINITELY is not saying the victims ask for it.  Rape is a crime and should be punished severely.  I just want to understand if this is true, or maybe is just some exaggerated stories.  

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Registered: 05-29-2004
Wed, 11-07-2012 - 10:22am
Interesting thought--"one is always more of a giver/pleaser," I never thought about that!
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Registered: 03-27-2013
Wed, 03-27-2013 - 12:25pm

I have wondered if way back in the day when warriors or vikings plundered a village and raped the women if some of the women did not enjoy (orgasm) during the attacks.  Of course their are all kinds of psychological stress, fearing for their life etc. on these women that no one would ever know.  I am not saying that this kind of thing should ever happen but I can imagine some of them that survived surely fantasized about this happening again.

My question is does anyone think that because of these fantasies that any women ever wished that they would really be conquered again so they could live out this fantasy?  And if they were attacked do you think these women would put themselves in the position for this to happen..............in essence line up for it?

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Registered: 11-12-2013
Tue, 11-12-2013 - 2:14am

It True.. For Me at least.. I was brutally raped for 3 whole hour when I was 16 (I'm 27 now) in my home, My whole family was gone for a camping trip, for some reason I could not come... they a knife and a gun, they threatned to kill my family if i didn't "serve" them Even. even Before they actuelly raped me they made me have 2 orgasms using their fingers.. during those 3 hours I was forced to orgasm 11 times!!!! I passed out 2 times. it was humilliating, painfull, and exhausting.

I was in a great deppression for 3 years... I just throw myself into my studies during my deppression. I never told enybody about this.. I was very lucky they did not return to rape me again.. I was very lucky I did not get pregnant, I was very lucky I did not catch any STDs

It was a horrible event in my life, very traumatic, but often I find myself relieveing the exeprience ended up hating myself.... but after reading more and more on the internet about rape and reading case files.. I understand that orgasm during rape Can Happen, They might not always happen but it can happen. But it doesn't mean that the victims want the rape. Orgasm are just a biological response, it just proves that the body is working as it should be. in some files I even read that it is somekind of a defense mechanism during rape to ease the pain and avoid injury...

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Registered: 02-04-2014
Wed, 02-05-2014 - 2:40pm

I have just read these posts and must agree at the outset that a woman having an orgasm does not negate rape (penetration without consent).  The problem is that in many rape cases the defense presents a case of consent, and the jury never knows what really happened.  There is never any direct evidence of consent -- absent a recording or video -- other than witness' testimony.  When that testimony is disputed, the jury must turn to circumstantial evidence of whether she consented, and I can understand how even if an orgasm is sometimes nothing more than a biological reaction, it is sometimes more.  Suppose for example, that instead of saying "I'm coming" in the above example she said, "Yes, I'm about to come,"  as she pulled her rapist into her.  None of us can know what it was in a particular case, but it is relevant in that it can reasonably be viewed by the finder of fact, considered along with other evidnce, as making a material fact (consent) more or less likely than a if there were no evidence of it.  I know of cases where there has been expert testimony on both sides about the significance of an orgasm.  It is outrageous if a guilty man goes free based on this or any other false evidence, but I have great sympathy for the jurors, who are instructed that they must find every element of the offense beyond a reasonable doubt while giving all favorable inferences to the defendant. Please don't interperet anything I have written here as suggesting that I think women are any less believeable or more prone to lie than men.  I do not believe that.  I hope I never have to sit on such a jury and make such judgments.  I would likely agonize over that decision for the rest of my life.

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