I wish it was 1950.

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Registered: 08-14-2007
I wish it was 1950.
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Fri, 08-31-2007 - 1:07am
I was never around then, but i've heard the world was safer and the men were different. I watch those movies set in the 50's and men were actually courting women with the best of intentions. ( im sure there were still the occasional bad seeds) They wanted to get married and start families. They took women on dates, besides bars with their buddies, and kissed then goodnight without trying to get an invitation inside. I wish i was there then. Somehow...things just seemed simpler.
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Registered: 07-13-2007
Wed, 09-05-2007 - 4:02pm

They didn't lack passion back then, but they lacked a lot of freedom to be themselves and express themselves the way they wanted to.

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I live in Miami, and the basic difference between "expression" on south beach and where some of my family lives in Georgia is huge, much less 40 years. (-: The interesting question is did the suppression of expression "then" result in more hidden deviance? Were people better? Or better at not getting caught? (-:

How many of the people here have parents born in the 50's? It just hit me that the 30's age group might be influenced buy overly "fond memories" shared my there parents! (-:

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Registered: 09-04-2007
Wed, 09-05-2007 - 4:08pm
My father was born in 1944 and definitely speaks of his childhood as though it was Disney World haha. So yes...some of the people with older parents here may be influenced by what they've told them. I also live in Miami and I'm completely on the same page with you when it comes to expression. I think it is natural for humans to make mistakes so the deviant behavior definitely existed back then, people were just far better at hiding it..."If you don't tell anyone my secret, I won't tell anyone yours."...and so it went ! Lol.
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Registered: 08-02-2007
Wed, 09-05-2007 - 4:32pm

>> I agree that men today are not what they once were.

Can the same be said about women ? I mean before "modern" feminism came along and turned women into who knows what.

>>But women also lacked plenty of freedom in those times and were somewhat looked down upon...

What freedom would that be ? Who stopped whom from doing what ?

>>The respect men gave them was the only thing they received.

Respect is earned. Even today those who deserve respect, get it.

>>And when did I ever say that passion is only found in short term romantic flings ?

You made a blanket statement that the 50's lacked passion. What the 50s lacked were lewd Hollywood movies telling us what to think, how to think and how to behave.

>> but they lacked a lot of freedom to be themselves and express themselves the way they wanted to.

Such as what ?

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Registered: 08-02-2007
Wed, 09-05-2007 - 4:37pm

>>My father was born in 1944 and definitely speaks of his childhood as though it was Disney World haha.

He was born in '44, but those who *lived* through the 20's , 30's and 40's were some of the greatest generations. They made sacrifices and lived through hardships that you cannot imagine. It is to -them- that we owe the peace, prosperity and the Disney Worlds we enjoy today.

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Registered: 05-01-2007
Wed, 09-05-2007 - 4:42pm

The freedoms that were denied to a lot of women in the 50's - to divorce, to get compassionate help in the event of abuse, to do as she sees fit with her own body, to do something with an education aside from being arm candy. I could go on for days.
I mean, even now, some members of our society are denied the right to marry.

~Heather~

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Registered: 01-26-2006
Wed, 09-05-2007 - 4:46pm

>> >>People weren't likely to move beyond their home town. Now it's common to move all over the country - even the globe - for job opportunities.

True. Another evidence of improved economic activity and higher overall wealth. People need to be where they are needed and out of where they are not. <<

Uh, partially, but it also proves the commonality (and relative affordability) of travel means. I'm willing to bet almost no one flew all over the country/world in the 50's.

>> >> Going to church EVERY Sunday was expected. Now going to a ballgame is more important.

And some more.<<

Why does THIS prove we're self-centered?? I'm completely fine with being my agnostic self, thanks. Sundays NOW are more for going to the ballgame or some other such activity WITH family and friends.

What's the point of grumbling about the present?? You're stuck here whether you like it or not, so you might as well just roll with it, change what you can, and forget what you can't.

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Registered: 01-26-2006
Wed, 09-05-2007 - 4:47pm
THANK YOU. Finally someone who's not all doom and gloom. jk :)
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Registered: 01-26-2006
Wed, 09-05-2007 - 4:51pm

>>I agree that men today are not what they once were. But women also lacked plenty of freedom in those times and were somewhat looked down upon...The respect men gave them was the only thing they received.

What point is respect if it's fake (I'm not arguing with you, just bring up a point I thought of while reading your post)?? The outer chivalry only concealed a general disdain for women and a chauvinistic attitude. I'd rather have true respect than someone merely opening doors for me; it's superficial.

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Registered: 08-02-2007
Wed, 09-05-2007 - 5:11pm

Aaaahh . Now I see. Now we are going somewhere :)

* to get "compassionate help" in the event of abuse,

* to do as she sees fit with her own body,

* some members of our society are denied the right to marry.

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I am not sure women did not have the right to divorce earlier. Did they ? And who stopped women from being anything else other than arm candy ? I can name plenty of very accomplished women from the early to mid 1900s.




Edited 9/5/2007 5:14 pm ET by capegirardeau
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Registered: 07-13-2007
Wed, 09-05-2007 - 5:32pm
You are kidding right? You think the playing fields were level and we did not impose "brain drain" on our own society with the exclusion of anything basically not male and white? Oky doky then . . .(-:
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