Hi Shy. Late jumping in here. Yes! I agree with you! I love being a girl and a girly girl at that! I love wearing nail polish and wearing my hair long, having the wind blow through my hair and trying on make up and fragrances and getting dressed in girl girl clothes. I love being pretty and pampered and pink and soft! I don't like seeing women's arms all pumped up like a man's. If you notice, the strain begins to show in their faces and they begin to look older than what they are quickly. Case in point, Madonna, Janet Jackson and Jada Pinkett-Smith. I like frilly things. I like being a girl.
I guess the few girls that are "high maintenance" and do expect their guy to buy their things for them just ruin it for the rest of us who are independent yet like to look nice. If a guy is going to judge you on your looks alone, though, that's his problem and his loss. No need to get bummed out about it.
Yes, I'm serious about her telling guys about her happy trail. lol She just uses it as an ice breaker because she can't think of anything better. She also said she thinks it's better for a potential guy to know the bad stuff about her first, so that sort of makes sense. I would just wax it or something, though. I guess the ice breaker works since 4 guys are asking her on dates and such. Ah. Sometimes I really don't understand people.
Where are all the "manly" girls on this board? I'll have to put my 2 cents in for them...
First of all, just because a woman gets all sweaty and likes to play sports - doesn't mean she is "manly". Lots of female athletes are incredibly feminine...I know bc I don't really click with them, LOL. MOST of the men I've dated (and there have been alot) have loved the fact that I play sports for many reason...yes, because I never complained about how much sports they watched, I was always there beside them. Also, because I wanted to TALK about sports all the time and not interior decorating or something they find boring. It was also something they could SHOW me...DF taught me a wicked slap shot and I'd say I quite possibly have the best in the league. Men love to feel like they are being helpful and useful...teaching you sports fulfills that in a world where modern women are very independant. DF and I will play soccer or hockey in our living room and he'll grab my waist, throw me onto the floor and wrestle with me...overwhelmed by how much he loves the fact that he's never bored with me ;-)
Secondly, minimal make up shows confidence. I'm not saying it SHOULD - mind you, cause I know shy & countrygal are confident...but remember the days when a woman would say, "I can't go out w/o my "face" on." ? That wasn't very self assured. To be completely comfortable with who you are and what you look like - is sexy (nowadays, wasn't always). Plus, men love the fact that he knows exactly what she is going to look like tommorrow morning when he wakes up, heehee...
Thirdly, "high maintenance" can be synonymous with "non-spontaneous" or "unflexible", etc. For instance, if he gets home Friday night and says, "lets jump in the car and go camping"...he doesn't want to have to 2 hours while you pack your hair dryer and make sure you have all your make up etc. He doesn't want to hear you complain bc all the campsites were booked so now you have to camp in the middle of nowhere - with no toilets, no showers, no electrical outlets or mirrors. He doesn't want to see you spending lots of money on creams, eye shadows and the like when he thinks you look great w/o it. Plus alot of men tend to think that used to attract men (mostly European) so when you've got a men, its not needed as much. High maintenance means you REALLY care about the way things look - and that requires more maintenance to maintain. For instance, if you get a new couch it might not go with your wall colours so then you'll want to paint the living room...even tho he thinks it looks fine and would rather be doing something else (like maybe golfing) on a Sun afternoon.
I'm just generalizing here - but as a "manly" woman (by your definition bc I play lots of sports, watch sports, wear minimal make up and am definitely "low maintenance)...I understand men (of course, the fact that my two closest friends are male might have more to do with it, LOL) *fairly* well...as well as a woman can...
Ah - I wasn't speaking about FACT...I was merely respresenting PERCEPTION ;-) There is a perception that a woman with lots of make up and not a hair out of place takes longer...
And yes, I did say that less effort was one of the reasons...but I was trying to describe a "best friend" type of r/ship. Some men actually want - I know, I was surprised too! And there are other men who prefer big groups of men to hang around with (my brother) and see no benefit to chatting with women about anything (we couldn't possibly have anything of value to add in the areas of sports, religion, politics)...as I said, I was generalizing. But less work? Not necessarily if you have to coach her soccer team, teach her how to balance a ball on her foot, etc. In some ways, leaving her to polish her nails while you go golfing with the guys could be considered less work...? Its all about perception...
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My dad was a hunting, fishing, "blood trail" kinda guy and although he had his faults, he was still a good guy.
I don't think you can ever judge someone by the hobbies they take up (with the exception of the illegal ones).
Late jumping in here.
Yes! I agree with you! I love being a girl and a girly girl at that!
I love wearing nail polish and wearing my hair long, having the wind blow through my hair and trying on make up and fragrances and getting dressed in girl girl clothes.
I love being pretty and pampered and pink and soft!
I don't like seeing women's arms all pumped up like a man's. If you notice, the strain begins to show in their faces and they begin to look older than what they are quickly.
Case in point, Madonna, Janet Jackson and Jada Pinkett-Smith.
I like frilly things. I like being a girl.
I was just stewing about this same thing the other day.
I don't get the whole "high maintenance/low maintenance" thing.
I guess the few girls that are "high maintenance" and do expect their guy to buy their things for them just ruin it for the rest of us who are independent yet like to look nice. If a guy is going to judge you on your looks alone, though, that's his problem and his loss. No need to get bummed out about it.
Yes, I'm serious about her telling guys about her happy trail. lol She just uses it as an ice breaker because she can't think of anything better. She also said she thinks it's better for a potential guy to know the bad stuff about her first, so that sort of makes sense. I would just wax it or something, though. I guess the ice breaker works since 4 guys are asking her on dates and such. Ah. Sometimes I really don't understand people.
Where are all the "manly" girls on this board? I'll have to put my 2 cents in for them...
First of all, just because a woman gets all sweaty and likes to play sports - doesn't mean she is "manly". Lots of female athletes are incredibly feminine...I know bc I don't really click with them, LOL. MOST of the men I've dated (and there have been alot) have loved the fact that I play sports for many reason...yes, because I never complained about how much sports they watched, I was always there beside them. Also, because I wanted to TALK about sports all the time and not interior decorating or something they find boring. It was also something they could SHOW me...DF taught me a wicked slap shot and I'd say I quite possibly have the best in the league. Men love to feel like they are being helpful and useful...teaching you sports fulfills that in a world where modern women are very independant. DF and I will play soccer or hockey in our living room and he'll grab my waist, throw me onto the floor and wrestle with me...overwhelmed by how much he loves the fact that he's never bored with me ;-)
Secondly, minimal make up shows confidence. I'm not saying it SHOULD - mind you, cause I know shy & countrygal are confident...but remember the days when a woman would say, "I can't go out w/o my "face" on." ? That wasn't very self assured. To be completely comfortable with who you are and what you look like - is sexy (nowadays, wasn't always). Plus, men love the fact that he knows exactly what she is going to look like tommorrow morning when he wakes up, heehee...
Thirdly, "high maintenance" can be synonymous with "non-spontaneous" or "unflexible", etc. For instance, if he gets home Friday night and says, "lets jump in the car and go camping"...he doesn't want to have to 2 hours while you pack your hair dryer and make sure you have all your make up etc. He doesn't want to hear you complain bc all the campsites were booked so now you have to camp in the middle of nowhere - with no toilets, no showers, no electrical outlets or mirrors. He doesn't want to see you spending lots of money on creams, eye shadows and the like when he thinks you look great w/o it. Plus alot of men tend to think that used to attract men (mostly European) so when you've got a men, its not needed as much. High maintenance means you REALLY care about the way things look - and that requires more maintenance to maintain. For instance, if you get a new couch it might not go with your wall colours so then you'll want to paint the living room...even tho he thinks it looks fine and would rather be doing something else (like maybe golfing) on a Sun afternoon.
I'm just generalizing here - but as a "manly" woman (by your definition bc I play lots of sports, watch sports, wear minimal make up and am definitely "low maintenance)...I understand men (of course, the fact that my two closest friends are male might have more to do with it, LOL) *fairly* well...as well as a woman can...
Go.
But Go, you kind of proved my point.
Those men want a woman just like you because it's less effort.
Ah - I wasn't speaking about FACT...I was merely respresenting PERCEPTION ;-) There is a perception that a woman with lots of make up and not a hair out of place takes longer...
And yes, I did say that less effort was one of the reasons...but I was trying to describe a "best friend" type of r/ship. Some men actually want - I know, I was surprised too! And there are other men who prefer big groups of men to hang around with (my brother) and see no benefit to chatting with women about anything (we couldn't possibly have anything of value to add in the areas of sports, religion, politics)...as I said, I was generalizing. But less work? Not necessarily if you have to coach her soccer team, teach her how to balance a ball on her foot, etc. In some ways, leaving her to polish her nails while you go golfing with the guys could be considered less work...? Its all about perception...
But great topic!
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