I am originally from Cleveland. I have a friend who belongs to the Fagowees ski club. They do lots of things besides ski and they go on lots of trips at great rates. In fact, I went to Delaware with the group last year and had a blast. My friend has dated a number of men from the group, and all were educated with good jobs. Zoo fundraising events are another. Went to one last summer, and overall it was a good crowd, all ages.
Also, if you like sailing, the Edgewater Yacht Club is good. There is always something going on culturally or downtown. I have lived in NC for the last 12 years, and there is tons more to do socially for singles in Cleveland than the Raleigh-Durham area.
The sports scene is good, too. Indians, Browns, Cavs games and parties.
I am actually in the process of moving back to Cleveland due to a job change. I've lived many places. Do some cities seem to have more eligible single men than others? Yes. Particularly in the 20s and early 30s age group. In my experience, however(and sadly it has taken me until into my forties to figure this out), it has been my attitude that determines what kind of men I run into....not the geographical area.
Hope this helps. I also keep hearing about golf as a way to meet successful, nice men, but i am way too much of a klutz to do that. I'm sure there are a ton of other places to meet.
Actually, I am not a golddigger. I support myself quite comfortably, and earn in the six figures.
That said, I want to be with someone who at least has tried to establish himself in some arena. I definitely want someone who is, while not necessarily rich, stable and well-established. I am not asking for anything I do not myself offer, nor will I apologize for it. I am not going to support a man nor help him "find himself."
The world isn't always fair. I don't think it's fair that many men prefer to date women 15-20 years younger, size -2, etc., but that is their preference. People are entitled to want what they want. I do not have to like it, nor do you. It is what it is.
I can't help but wonder why you are so defensive. It's as though you took my comments personally, which is insane. There are plenty of women (I am assuming you are a man) who want a man for his bod, his sexual skills, his wit, etc. Not everyone is looking for the same thing, just seems that way. If I were to believe the media, I would think every man wants an Angelina Jolie or much-younger arm candy. Fortunately, I beleive men are far more broad-minded and diverse than that.
I don't know you, you don't know me. I would never criticize you for your criteria in a partner;kindly afford me the same courtesy.
Well yes I did take it a bit personal. And the reason is because I've been struggling financially lately and i just get really hopeless/depressed/angry sometimes especially when I feel women are after a guys money only. I'm really ambitious and sharp but something is holding me back. I've definitely made some strategic errors in the past. Can you tell how you came to make 6 figure income? Care to give me some business tips? If i get rich I'll marry you. lol
Hey, I don't know how old you are, but we have ALL been there. I am 46, and trust me, when I was in my mid-twenties or even 30's, I would not have wished me on ANYONE! Yes, I was physically attractive, but I was a mess emotionally, insecure, not established, etc. I was a late bloomer. Now I feel really good about myself and want to share that with someone who is in a similar place.
The good news for you, is, if you are a guy, you have plenty of time to straighten your life out and get to a place where you feel good. Trust me, when you get to that place you will find a great woman to share your life. But when a person does not feel good about oneself, they will attract people who are either abusive, boring, unambitious, etc. Trust me, been there done that. I met my ex-husband when I was feeling like I was worthless, fat, an "old maid"---at age 22, no less! My ex was not a bad guy but not right for me at all. Thankfully, we didn't have children.
Maybe now is a good time to focus on you and your ambitions, dreams, etc. As far as finding a woman, I'd put that on the back burner for mow. No, you don't have to be rich to attract a great woman, but you do need to feel good about yourself in order to attract a healthy partner.
BTW, it took me a long time to get to where I am now. I am fortunate to be in a high-demand field (cancer research). Give yourself time. We all have setbacks. You don't have to make a lot of money to attract a great woman. I have a friend who is FAR hotter than me, who is married to what I consider to be a very boring, not sexually attractive guy with a boring job and not rich. But you know what? She loves him and that is all that matters! I don't have to love him.
I understand what you mean about taking things personally, though. Every time I see something on the internet or in other media about how men won't look at a woman over 30, it hurts, too. We all have our Achilles heel!
Hang in there and good luck. Men have more options than women and you need to remember that and be patient.
Thank you so much. Do you live in the east coast? I'm 31. I have 2 more years left just to get a bs/ba. I would like a MBA or law degree. How much time do I have left before its too late?!!!!?
Oh man, you have PLENTY of time! Your life is just beginning. Trust me!!! I know people who have gone to medical or law school in their 40s or 50s! Keep on your path and focus on you. I guarantee you, unless you are a complete jerk with no social graces, when you are ready, you will have NO problems finding a great woman. You don't even have to be handsome, although maybe you are.
I have been attracted to all sorts of men: tall, short, bald, overweight, skinny....but they all had something in common....a strong sense of self, they were interesting and well-rounded. If you focus on devleoping you, you will attract interesting, attractive women. Jack, for a man, in this day and age, you are very, very young.
Even the late JFK Jr., whom I consider the handsomest, classiest man who ever lived, did not marry until around age 36! His father married late as well.
Please, just focus on your goals now, and the women will come later. Have fun with friends in the meantime. I can't emphasize this enough. You are probably a very caring, sincere man and that's why you are hurting. There are many things I would change if I could go back to age 31! If only I knew then what I know now!
The world is your oyster;you just have to believe it!
I am originally from Cleveland. I have a friend who belongs to the Fagowees ski club. They do lots of things besides ski and they go on lots of trips at great rates. In fact, I went to Delaware with the group last year and had a blast. My friend has dated a number of men from the group, and all were educated with good jobs. Zoo fundraising events are another. Went to one last summer, and overall it was a good crowd, all ages.
Also, if you like sailing, the Edgewater Yacht Club is good. There is always something going on culturally or downtown. I have lived in NC for the last 12 years, and there is tons more to do socially for singles in Cleveland than the Raleigh-Durham area.
The sports scene is good, too. Indians, Browns, Cavs games and parties.
I am actually in the process of moving back to Cleveland due to a job change. I've lived many places. Do some cities seem to have more eligible single men than others? Yes. Particularly in the 20s and early 30s age group. In my experience, however(and sadly it has taken me until into my forties to figure this out), it has been my attitude that determines what kind of men I run into....not the geographical area.
Hope this helps. I also keep hearing about golf as a way to meet successful, nice men, but i am way too much of a klutz to do that. I'm sure there are a ton of other places to meet.
Good luck!
Muire
If you don't mind what's your education?
I also keep hearing about golf as a way to meet successful, nice men,>
No offence but you sound like one of those gold diggers. Why do you judge men on their job/income?!
I really despise that mentality/attitude.
No offense taken.
Actually, I am not a golddigger. I support myself quite comfortably, and earn in the six figures.
That said, I want to be with someone who at least has tried to establish himself in some arena. I definitely want someone who is, while not necessarily rich, stable and well-established. I am not asking for anything I do not myself offer, nor will I apologize for it. I am not going to support a man nor help him "find himself."
The world isn't always fair. I don't think it's fair that many men prefer to date women 15-20 years younger, size -2, etc., but that is their preference. People are entitled to want what they want. I do not have to like it, nor do you. It is what it is.
I can't help but wonder why you are so defensive. It's as though you took my comments personally, which is insane. There are plenty of women (I am assuming you are a man) who want a man for his bod, his sexual skills, his wit, etc. Not everyone is looking for the same thing, just seems that way. If I were to believe the media, I would think every man wants an Angelina Jolie or much-younger arm candy. Fortunately, I beleive men are far more broad-minded and diverse than that.
I don't know you, you don't know me. I would never criticize you for your criteria in a partner;kindly afford me the same courtesy.
And the reason is because I've been struggling financially lately and i just get really hopeless/depressed/angry sometimes especially when I feel women are after a guys money only.
I'm really ambitious and sharp but something is holding me back. I've definitely made some strategic errors in the past.
Can you tell how you came to make 6 figure income? Care to give me some business tips?
If i get rich I'll marry you. lol
Hey, I don't know how old you are, but we have ALL been there. I am 46, and trust me, when I was in my mid-twenties or even 30's, I would not have wished me on ANYONE! Yes, I was physically attractive, but I was a mess emotionally, insecure, not established, etc. I was a late bloomer. Now I feel really good about myself and want to share that with someone who is in a similar place.
The good news for you, is, if you are a guy, you have plenty of time to straighten your life out and get to a place where you feel good. Trust me, when you get to that place you will find a great woman to share your life. But when a person does not feel good about oneself, they will attract people who are either abusive, boring, unambitious, etc. Trust me, been there done that. I met my ex-husband when I was feeling like I was worthless, fat, an "old maid"---at age 22, no less! My ex was not a bad guy but not right for me at all. Thankfully, we didn't have children.
Maybe now is a good time to focus on you and your ambitions, dreams, etc. As far as finding a woman, I'd put that on the back burner for mow. No, you don't have to be rich to attract a great woman, but you do need to feel good about yourself in order to attract a healthy partner.
BTW, it took me a long time to get to where I am now. I am fortunate to be in a high-demand field (cancer research). Give yourself time. We all have setbacks. You don't have to make a lot of money to attract a great woman. I have a friend who is FAR hotter than me, who is married to what I consider to be a very boring, not sexually attractive guy with a boring job and not rich. But you know what? She loves him and that is all that matters! I don't have to love him.
I understand what you mean about taking things personally, though. Every time I see something on the internet or in other media about how men won't look at a woman over 30, it hurts, too. We all have our Achilles heel!
Hang in there and good luck. Men have more options than women and you need to remember that and be patient.
M
How much time do I have left before its too late?!!!!?
Oh man, you have PLENTY of time! Your life is just beginning. Trust me!!! I know people who have gone to medical or law school in their 40s or 50s! Keep on your path and focus on you. I guarantee you, unless you are a complete jerk with no social graces, when you are ready, you will have NO problems finding a great woman. You don't even have to be handsome, although maybe you are.
I have been attracted to all sorts of men: tall, short, bald, overweight, skinny....but they all had something in common....a strong sense of self, they were interesting and well-rounded. If you focus on devleoping you, you will attract interesting, attractive women. Jack, for a man, in this day and age, you are very, very young.
Even the late JFK Jr., whom I consider the handsomest, classiest man who ever lived, did not marry until around age 36! His father married late as well.
Please, just focus on your goals now, and the women will come later. Have fun with friends in the meantime. I can't emphasize this enough. You are probably a very caring, sincere man and that's why you are hurting. There are many things I would change if I could go back to age 31! If only I knew then what I know now!
The world is your oyster;you just have to believe it!
M