Venting my frustrations

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Venting my frustrations
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Mon, 06-11-2007 - 2:28pm

First, I have to say that I really think most men have got to be really moronic or something.

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Tue, 06-12-2007 - 6:45pm

"The latest's new girl calls herself "Heiress" on her profile and quotes herself. By name. Ooh, right, and she also wouldn't admit to being in a relationship until a while after he did. ::eye roll::"

Who are these women who call themselves "Heiress"? I mean, why do they think they are so special? Where were they bred?

I see these types of women in public who just think they are fabulous and walk around like their S**t doesn't stink, and half the time they're not that hot. They're just super skinny with a pair of fake boobs. I just have never thought of myself that highly.

I guess these are the girls who mother's called them princess. When I was growing up, my mother was the princess and still is. I guess since my mother had very little to say I don't have as high a self-esteem as these types of girls.

On ocassion I envy their confidence, because I don't have that much.

Beach

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Tue, 06-12-2007 - 7:18pm

I will cross my fingers for tonight. . .
And I didn’t block anything per say . . I frankly was at work and scanned everything really fast . . .and in the “most general” since of the word . . you were both complaining on “one subject” about the same thing . . .perceptions of dishonesty. Or so I seemed to pick up. Pretty normal stuff, we all have our days . . .I just vented to a friend about something I read on the board . . but DNFTT I think will win . . other wise you will all think me heartless and soulless . . .LOL We all have our moments.

Look . . I just kind of got Mark . . and kind of got you . . .and was not sure why the friction. And I instinctively tend to want to let you have “those days” . . . (-: I might not know how it feels, but have long ago excepted that is not fun, very real and some times a little pampering is not such a bad thing. (Two daughters, relationships and marriage . . and prefer female friends . . go figure.) You figure this stuff out or get eaten for lunch. LOL

No worries for me, no reason at all . . . (-:

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Registered: 06-12-2007
Wed, 06-13-2007 - 12:03am

>>>Sweetie - let me clarify a few things for you...

I'm IN a relationship. I've been with the same guy for four years. I have sex on a regular basis. So I certainly don't need dating tips from a guy who has 1) never had a date; 2) has no social skills whatsoever; and 3) is seeking tips online on "how to pick up hot chicks for hot sex," and has been doing so, unsuccessfully apparently, for the past seven months.

I also wanted to say this: When I was 20, I guarantee you, YOU - being the self-proclaimed "Nice Guy" that you SAY you are, who in your above paragraph just told me to "give the nice guy in the corner a chance" - would have NEVER deemed ME worthy of a second glance. YOU would have looked in the other direction to one of the dingy bims you now complain about who ignores you and tells you when you approach her, "It ain't gonna happen."

*I* do not date guys with the most friends, guys with the most money, guys with the nicest car. I never WANTED to date said men because I don't need to *prove* anything to anyone. I had then, and still have, MORE IMPORTANT things to do than to worry excessively of what the world must think of me if I'm not invited to the most popular kids' parties, wearing the most popular clothes, etc. YOU, however, present yourself as the type of guy whose EGO is so tissue-paper thin that you must, must, must PROVE to yourself and the world that you are important and manly, because underneath it all, you're terrified that the world might find out how deeply insecure and AFRAID and impoverished in spirit you really are.

So before you think about trying to give ME dating tips, why don't you take your OWN advice and give a NICE girl a chance - who may not be the most attractive, who may NOT be cheerleader material, who may NOT be the trophy bimbo you want to have on your arm to prove what a stud you are. And when you've done that, THEN you can stand up on your little soap box and give ME advice, Don Juan. Until then, I guess we'll be seeing you around for the next seven months or so while you keep going for those same dingy bims in the short skirts who give you excuses as to why they can't go out with your or tell you "It ain't gonna happen." Because what goes around comes around, "Mr. Nice Guy."

Cheers.<<<

I was talking to cl_shywon. What made you think my response was about you?

I wouldn't have overlooked you. From your picture, I think you're very attractive.

I'm not trying to prove anything to anyone. I don't want to be popular or have sex with lots of girls to get other people's approval. I want it FOR ME. I want to know what it's like to have lots of people vie for my time and attention. I want to know what the physical sensation of sex is like, and the thrill of and freedom of casually hooking up FOR ME. Not for others, but because I want to enjoy what I've missed out on my whole life. Can't you understand that?

I'm not going to go for a a girl who's unattractive. I don't care how nice or friendly or intelligent she is. I'm not asking for a supermodel 10. I'm not even asking for a cheerleader. I'm asking for a girl who stays in shape, does her hair, basically does what she can to be pretty and presentable. If she won't take the time or the effort to do that, then why should I take the time and effort to date her?

I don't want to prove myself to other guys or show off what a stud I am. I wouldn't care if I had the approval of any other guy for the rest of my life. All I'm asking is a warm and attractive body. I know I deserve it. Why is that so unreasonable?




Edited 6/13/2007 12:13 am ET by red2007
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Wed, 06-13-2007 - 12:33am

I understand your frustration about men. I feel like I've put together a pretty good package that is myself and yet nobody (I would want - and even some who don't completely meet my standards) want to even TRY to get to know me. I understand relationships come with problems but at least someone like them enough to date or love them enough to marry. There's no guarantee but when you don't even get any offer, you don't know if you could even try it out.

Depending on how you see it, I'm thankful for my busy job. I find it to be a good escape.

And PMS can make your problems seem bigger.

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Wed, 06-13-2007 - 12:40am

IT's very demoralizing. I see plenty of men who aren't good looking, don't have as much education, and don't make as good money as me who are pretty ambivalent about dating. i.e. I'n on chemistry.com (spin-off of match works like eharmony - and even has more people b/c it draws from Match - except it's free), I would get to the point where I want to talk on the phone and they don't call. There was a guy that wanted to make a second date after the first meeting. We made a date then I left a message to reschedule b/c of my work. He never called me back. Well, that was pretty inflexible b/c if it was me I would work with the person a little more.

Hell, I figure I'm not so desparate that I should get on the internet to pick up men I have to support. Rather spend all this hard-earned money on myself.

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Wed, 06-13-2007 - 4:08am

>I'm IN a relationship. I've been with the same guy for four years. I have sex on a regular basis.

None of my business...but the encounter with the fireman in Las Vegas last summer.. well none of my business.

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Registered: 10-14-2003
Wed, 06-13-2007 - 10:30am

>>I'm IN a relationship. I've been with the same guy for four years. I have sex on a regular basis.

None of my business...but the encounter with the fireman in Las Vegas last summer.. well none of my business.<

LOL! Yeah, that was a pretty good shot. But you're missing a chunk of personal information there.

Nice try anyway though. You get a gold star for effort!

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Registered: 01-26-2006
Wed, 06-13-2007 - 10:58am

I KNOW!! I'm confident (for the most part, I have my off days and things that bother me) but there's a difference between confident and OBNOXIOUS. She (and they) either don't know the meaning of the word or like to pretend they're an "heiress." Why, ok, flies when you're 15, NOT when you're 26! What in GOD'S name are you an heiress of?? Your mother's doll collection (I'm making this up :) )?? You're from the middle of f-ing nowhere (which is fine as long as you don't call yourself an HEIRESS) and have a desk job (which, again, there's nothing wrong with, I do too). GET OVER YOURSELF.

Just venting my frustrations. :) It pisses me off that girls like that beat me out, so to speak.

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Registered: 02-22-2007
Wed, 06-13-2007 - 10:59am

Emdeesea, this is very funny and totally to the point - I did in fact think most of the things you mention when I read Redsomethingorother's post to you 'advising' you on r-ships.. *eyeroll*. I have a question for you though: you are in a LTR, am I correct? over 4 years? I am not questioning you being on a Single board cause I am myself in a r-ship of 3+ years but started visiting this board when single. I must say though that in many of your posts you sound as though you're not happy..as though you ARE single and would love to find a partner, slightly bitter, dissapointed.. is this just how you come accross in posts? I am simply curious, that's all. If I didn't know you were in a LTR I would guess from your posts that you were single and very unhappy about it..
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Wed, 06-13-2007 - 11:22am

>I must say though that in many of your posts you sound as though you're not happy..as though you ARE single and would love to find a partner, slightly bitter, dissapointed.. is this just how you come accross in posts? I am simply curious, that's all. If I didn't know you were in a LTR I would guess from your posts that you were single and very unhappy about it..<

You're spot on on a few things there. :)

Yeah, you're right - not a few of my posts are of the darker variety. Am I happy? No not really. :) But it's due to a lot of other things, too.

My relationship - LOL! I could go on and on about it, but we'll just say that it has it's ups and downs. The four years together has been on and off. Mostly on, mostly good. There have been times though where it's been *real* close...

I would say that seven times out of ten I'm pretty happy. The other three times can be chalked up to the differences in our personalities, the differences in our personal circumstances and the circumstances surrounding our relationship...

I have considered breaking it off permanently more than a few times, believe me. And it's still not out of the question entirely. Sometimes you can care about another person but just not be "right" for them. Is this one of those times? Maybe. I dunno.

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